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				<title>What will &quot;rule&quot; September?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Many movies are coming in September that are definite hits, might-bes and just plain bombs.

Here are the movies that are in question for me:
3:10 to Yuma - Will it get a good crowd or just be a disappointment to anybody who put it in their studio?

The Brave One - I know Jodie Foster can carry an action film (Flightplan). But can it bring in the money?

Resident Evil: Extinction - This film's projections aren't as high as the gross of its predecessor. But anything can happen in Hollywood (March of the Penguins). I do have one question though: Is this the last? I know extinction is in the title, but I am not familiar to RE.

Shoot 'Em Up - This has a mother and child being protected as in Children of Men, but was that as gruesome as this will be? Anyways, it does have a fair projection.

Anymore in question? I just did quick jots of ones that I could think of. What's your take on these?]]></description>
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				<title>Re:What will &quot;rule&quot; September?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <b><u>Bless you Michael Bay. Armageddon is a masterpiece.</u></b>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 31 Aug 2007 01:24:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
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		<cite>tuan69 wrote:</cite><br>
		<blockquote>You forgot to add Jesse James. That film will be a masterpiece.&nbsp;
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you're really in love with this western after watching the trailer eh tuan?? :D
(to be fair, so am i....)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 31 Aug 2007 06:32:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah. Of course Jesse James. It seems to have a fair projection. Think it will do better?]]></description>
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				<title>Re:What will &quot;rule&quot; September?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ The Kingdom will be the biggest hit and the best film of September.]]></description>
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				<title>Re:What will &quot;rule&quot; September?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Will the others be able to hold up though? Because if that's the case w/The Kingdom, I'll get it. It did look pretty good, by the way.]]></description>
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				<title>Re:What will &quot;rule&quot; September?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ 3:10 To Yuma and Shoot'Em Up will hold up The Brave One won't Not Sure about Resident Evil. Shoot'Em Up and 3:10 To Yuma are good solid picks for your slate.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:00:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks. I was unsure about some of them just because they're so crammed in September.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:13:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Erm, I noticed you phrased that question, "movies... <i>coming </i>in September."  See, I suspect one or two of September's biggest films may actually open the last three days in <i>August </i>.  (Particularly <i>Balls of Fury</i>; though <i>Halloween</i> (2007), God help me, might actually make a splash; <i>Death Sentence</i>, sorry to say, is D.O.A.  Man, does Kevin Bacon need a new agent.)  I'll not be surprised if <i>Tiny Balls </i>does $75M; <i>Michael Myers Rising</i>, $60M; and <i>Six Degrees of Assassination</i>, $25M.  However, I seriously doubt <u><i><b>any</b></i></u> of this month's offerings will actually cross the $100M threshhold.

Imo the top three contenders (in no particular order) are <i>3:10 to Yuma</i>, <i>Resident Evil: Extinction </i>and <i>The Assassination of Jesse James...,</i> with <i>The Kingdom </i>and <i>Good Luck Chuck </i>threatening to break into the upper echelon, and at least one potential bona fide sleeper hit.  Read on:

I think the <i>3:10 to Yuma </i>remake is the slam-dunkiest prospect of them all; only fair-to-poor reviews will keep this entry under $60M.  Still, even for a bevy of A-list celebrity millionaire playboys, $100M is pushing it.  Call it $85M, and I hope I'm low-balling it.

<i>Resident Evil: Extinction</i>, I think, could be the highest-grossing of the series.  There's certainly a lot of anticipation for this one...  Anyone who's ever dropped their mortgage papers, their kids' college fund and their drawers in Vegas ought to be smacking their lips in gleeful anticipation.  Erm, at least that's what <b><i>I</i></b> hear...  on The Strip.  From other people who, you know, go there and do... stuff.  And things.  I guess.  Not from my <u><i><b>own</b></i></u> personal experience, of course, ha ha!  Friends tell me, that's all.  Friends of friends.  Who know people I know, or have heard of.  Or might have.  Actually, I think it was on Showtime.  Or, erm, The Learning Channel, actually.  Call it $70M, but I could be $10-$15M low on this one, since, you know, I'm not familiar with... Vegas, or anything even remotely like that.

However, Westerns, on the other claw, I know.  <i>Jesse James <u><b>COULD</b></u> </i>be <i>Unforgiven</i>, or, on the other hand, it <u><i><b>COULD</b></i></u> be... <i>Wyatt Earp</i>.  I think this film will get magnificent reviews, but really should have been pushed up in front of <i>Yuma</i>.  Call it $65M.  It will deserve better, but then, so did Mr. James.

<i>Good Luck Chuck</i>, I think, has all the makings of a slightly less profitable version of <i>Knocked Up</i>; I'll call it for $65M. but it could go higher if women turn out the way they did for the Judd Apatow film.  I still think it has a ceiling of $80M, though.

<i>The Kingdom </i>is one of my personal top three most-anticipated films of the year, but I wonder if Iraq fatigue will hurt this film's chances.  Not to put <i>too </i>fine a point on it, but this film could be anything from a $20M bomb to a $100M blockbuster.  I'll be conservative, though, and call it for $50M, with lots of potential.

I think <i>Into the Wild </i>might be a stunner.  It will nab fantastic reviews and may be one of the top PTA films of the year, period.  I'll say $25M, 10 PTA, and (heh) climbing.

Other potential sleeper hits:  <i>The 11th Hour </i>(another August release), which may do as much as $20M with continued media interest and a slow, deliberate rollout; and it's guaranteed 7 PTA points, minimum.  <i>Across the Universe</i>, which I've been big on since... well, forever; $15M, easy, and it could go as high as $25M.  <i><b>And </b></i>it will snare at least 12 PTA points, guaranteed.  <i>Shine A Light </i>will do $10-$12M with 6 or 7 in PTA.  <i>In the Valley of Elah </i>might do $5M with a handful of PTA points.  <i>In the Shadow of the Moon </i>might snare some PTA, too, but no more than 4, total.  And <i>Self-Medicated </i>will make a modest splash for a couple PTA points, I think.  <i>The Jane Austen Book Club</i>, <i>Bordertown </i>and <i>The Darjeeling Limited </i>could figure, also, but not much.  All of the films I just mentioned, going back to <i>Into the Wild</i>, are potential IMDb gold mines, however.

...Let's not forget <i>Dragon Wars</i>, which looks to be written by a ninth-grade DM whose favorite films are <i>Armageddon</i>, <i>Godzilla </i>(yes, THAT one) and <i>Reign of Fire</i>.  Please.  This might as well have been called, not <i>Eragon</i>, but "<i><u>Error</u>gon</i>," or even "<i>We're-a-Gone</i>".  As in, not interested.  $25M might be <u>extremely</u> generous.

If <i>The Brave One </i>(with one of the worst one-sheets I've ever seen, btw; if I could toss a "thought bubble" on it it would read, "So... STOOPID!  They TOLD me not to shoot myself in the butt...  STOOPID!  STOOPID!  STOOPID!") makes $40M I'll be very, very surprised.  [Wink]  Jodie Foster needs to be rebooted (again); she's aimlessly wandering in Denzel Washington's personal career Purgatory (though I think <i>American Gangster </i>might finally break him out of his several-years'-long-slump).  Anyone doing a remake of <i>Pulp Fiction</i>?

And, is it just me, or could <u><b>ANYONE</b></u>, ever, besides Billy Bob Thornton really be cast as a leading character named "Woodcock"?  [Sigh]  But, then, <i>Pigs on Bikes</i>, or whatever the Hell that film was earlier this year, grossed, what, $200M?  Still, I'll predict $35M for <i>Mr. Woodcock</i>.  

[Sigh]  I really suppose I ought to say... <u><i>something</i></u>... about <i>The Game Plan</i>.  Fine.  This craptastic piece of shite will likely earn $45M.  In a perfect world, so many theatergoers would demand their money back that it would actually make <u><i><b>NEGATIVE</b></i></u> money, but...  After all, it's <u><i><b>NOT</b></i></u> a perfect world, else Britney Spears, Lindsay Lohan, Paris Hilton, Nicole Ritchie and Anna Nicole Smith would all have been merely particularly un-fleshy chum for The Discovery Channel's <i><u>Shark Week</u></i>.  Explore <u><i><b>THIS</b></i></u> world, sweethearts...  Anyway, back to <i>The Game Plan</i>.  I literally cannot think of anything nice to say about this film, except that I promise there won't be a sequel.  If this movie becomes the biggest hit of the month I shall shoot myself in the head with something.  Like, a harpoon, or a TASER, or a SABO round, maybe.

...And let's not forget, <i>Transformers in IMAX</i>, which will easily be one of the top five entries in that niche market of the year, despite being an afterthought and trailing its 35mm predecessor by all of two months.  Another $25M, easy, perhaps a LOT more.  I myself will see it <i>at <b>least </b></i>twice in IMAX if possible; it should make up for the hideously unwatchable IMAX hatchet job version of <i>Superman Returns</i>.

Gee, that was unexpected.  Okay, well, I guess I've picked up my enchanted quill, again, so now I'll put it back down.  [Grin]  Until next time... I remain, as always... 

Nico.]]></description>
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				<title>Re:What will &quot;rule&quot; September?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Wow.. was that a book or what?

I have to say, I wasn't around before your break, but your movie leanings definitely align very closely with my own, so I'm glad to see you back!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Great column, Nico, as usual, and you seem to have encapsulated all of September's major (and a few minor) releases... except one.

How do you think <i>Shoot 'Em Up</i> will do?  A significant percentage of the players in ALL my leagues have it on their roster (including myself in a couple of them).  To me it looks like a winner, possibly around $40 million, but what do you think?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Nico i think you got your expectations way to high on Dragon Wars 20 million it wont even make 5 million i didnt even know it existed untill 2 weeks ago.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ "Great column"...  [snort]  Thanks, <b>Shryke</b>, I'm slowly beginning to get back up-to-speed.  

...Yeah, actually I <b>deliberately </b>ignored <i>Shoot 'Em Up</i> (You <b><i>BAD</i></b> rat!  <i><b><u>BAD</u></b></i>!  Naughty!  Naughty, naughty, <b>naughty</b>!  --No, <i><b>no</b></i>, not the paddle... We-ellllllll, all <i><b>right</b></i>, if you <i>must</i>...  [<b><u>SMACK</u></b>]  No!  <i><b><u>No</u></b></i>!  Not the emory board and smithy's tongs...  ...Sorry, merely indulging a certain Kate Winslet fantasy, there...), just like <i>The Brothers Solomon </i>and <i>Sydney White</i>...  I mean, I friggin' <i><b><u>love</u></b></i> <i>Shoot 'Em Up</i>'s principals, and I know it's snagged some buzz and positive reviews, I just don't know how New Line's going to sell this one to Middle America.  Crime dramas, even relatively novel ones, die fast and quiet on our shores...  Anyone remember <i>Lonely Hearts</i>, <i>Slow Burn </i>or <i>The Flock</i>?  ...I thought not.

Honestly, I'm not convinced a single <b><i>one </i></b>of the leads can actually <i><b><u>CARRY</u> </b></i>a film, without some other major factor contributing to public awareness, like, for example, Alfonso Cuarón's pedigree, or M. "Twist!" Night Shyamalan's.  Want my honest opinion?  I think <i>Shoot 'Em Up </i>could be the next <i>The Lookout</i>.  Remember the advance word that film had?  I was one of the few "pros" advocating caution about that one, just like <i>Hot Fuzz </i>and, remember, I took a lot of heat for calling <i>Grind House </i>at a rock-bottom $39M.  (It did a scant $25M, flooring even me.).  What did <i>Lookout </i>-- a decent film, btw -- do?  $4M?  What about <i>Fuzz</i>?  $23M?  I'll call Shoot 'Em Up for $25M, but I gotta be blunt... it could wind up with much, much less.

<b>transformers</b>, you could well be right about Dragon Wars...  Could be anything from <i>Dungeons & Dragons </i>($15M) to <i>Pathfinder </i>($10M), to <i>The Last Legion </i>($5M), to... oblivion.  I'll stick to my guns, though; $25M, and that's high.  I may have lost a bunch of weight over the Summer, but I still have all my previous stubbornness!  [Grin]

<b>becs</b>:  Thanks, and it's great to <i><b><u>be</u> </b></i>back.  (Though I think my old "beat" is in terrific hands!)  You can read all my FM columns at http://news.fantasymoguls.com/originalcontent/nicodemus/index.html.  And, in the interest of full disclosure, I ought to mention that I <b><i><u>also</u> </i></b>predicted $45M-$50M for <i>Aqua Teen Hunger Force Colon Movie Film for Theaters</i>.  So, clearly, to paraphrase Paul Westerberg, <i>I'm not dyin' to offend you, / But I've got a dyslexic</i>... erm, Ouija board.

<i>ETA:  Don't take the whole Kate Winslet thing too seriously.  (I like <b>Jessica Biel</b>, too.)  [<b><u>SMACK</u>!!</b>] [Grin]</i>

I remain, as always... Nico.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <b><u>Bless you Michael Bay. Armageddon is a masterpiece.</u></b>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Mark my words Nico, the three biggest movies of September will be (in order):

1. The Kingdom
2. The Brave One
3. The Game Plan

I'm saying around 80-100 mill for Kingdom, around 75 mill for Brave One, and around 70 for Game Plan]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I agree with you, <b>bobbin</b>... mostly.

I really believe that <i>The Kingdom</i> will rule supreme for the September releases.  Iraq War fatigue notwithstanding, the combination of Peter Berg and Michael Mann is too potent to ignore.  And I hardly need to remind anyone that anything with Chris Cooper in it is gonna be outstanding.  I can only hope that Jamie Foxx and Jennifer Garner channel their awesomess(es) from <i>Ray</i> and <i>Alias</i>, rather than something considerably south of awesome (<i>Stealth</i> and <i>Elektra</i> come to mind).  

My vitriol for <i>The Game Plan</i> isn't quite as white-hot as Nico's, and here's hoping that we won't be finding him impaled on his own Ginsu.  But if Vin Diesel, who has about as much comedic presence as a block of granite, can push <i>The Pacifier</i> past $100 million, I think The Rock can break at least $70 for Disney.  Now, I really do like The Rock.  He's not the best actor in the world, but he seems like a really genuinely cool guy, who might just have a future in the biz.  He's done comedy, drama and action, with varying degrees of success (his turn in <i>Gridiron Gang</i> was exceptional), and I don't think his even doing this innocuous piece of fluff will make me turn on him.  (He has a six-year-old daughter;  I'm betting he's doing this for her.)

I'm guessing #2 for the month will be <i>Resident Evil: Extinction</i>.  It looks to be the coolest of the bunch, with a better cast and a better premise.  I think $75 is a real possibility.

For #3, I'm going with <i>Good Luck Chuck</i>.  Even though it's not Judd Apatow, it's a similar vein to stuff like <i>Knocked Up</i> and <i>Superbad</i>, which are both bona fide monster hits.  Plus, it's got Jessica Alba.  If she can pull $18 out of a piece of garbage like <i>Into the Blue</i>, this ought to be worth at least 3-4 times that.  It looks genuinely funny, and  I'd take Dane Cook over ten Paul Walkers.  (And no, I'm not switching teams, if you know what I mean.)

So, my Top 3 predictions for September are:

1. The Kingdom
2. Resident Evil: Extinction
3. Good Luck Chuck


P.S. $75M for <i>Balls of Fury</i>, Nico?  A week ago I would have agreed with you, and bought the giant foam finger too.  But then I committed a cardinal sin... I saw the damn thing.  

The blurb "from the creators of <i>Reno: 911</i>" should have set off alarm bells like nobody's business in my head, but the sheer awesomeness of the trailer well and truly pull the wool cap over my eyes.  I went in not knowing whether to expect an homage, a spoof, a satire, or some admixture of all three.  What I got, well...

Put it this way:  a mannerism of some of the funniest comedians of all time is to point out a thing, and draw a big red circle around it, and explain to us how ridiculous it is, and why it's funny.  And then we look at the thing in a whole new way.  Monty Python were kung-fu masters at taking on the most absurd situations and making you believe that they were completely normal.  And that, to me, is the quintessence of satire/spoof.

But you can't very well point to something inside that red circle if you happen to be standing inside it at the time.  The jokes weren't funny, the "hero" was unsympathetic, the token German "jerk" was just another dick with an accent, and Mr. Walken?  I love the guy, and I would like to think that he did all he could, and he looked like he was having a good time with it, but he came across even less menacing than frickin' Mini-Me.  Bottom line:  when the only person who brings even one iota of seriousness to the whole enterprise is Effing Terry Crews, you've got a real problem.

Take some thing sublime and make it ridiculous, it's called "satire".  Take something ridiculous and make it sublime, it's called "spoof".  Take something ridiculous and make it even more ridiculous, it's called "ninety minutes of my life that I'll never get back."  If you want a truly, truly excellent "sports satire/spoof", see <i>Dodgeball</i>.  And then again.  And then again.  And then again.  It would be preferable to watching <i>Balls of Fury</i>.

Wow, would you listen to me?  It seems my P.S. is longer than my post, which is something that I may need to see a surgeon to correct...  Forgive me, I sometimes channel Dennis Miller when it's this late at night, so I'll just stop now.

I remain, as always, 
Ocin.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <b>Shrykey</b>:  It's a fair point...  I admit, I may have -- hugely -- overestimated <i>Balls of Fury</i>'s appeal.  (Of course, I can always take refuge in the fact that I didn't do <u><i><b>any</b></i></u> real "research" for these guesstimates; I'm still feeling my way back into my prognosticatory playground.  However, I digress.  [Grin])  Then again, with the exception of <i>Good Luck Chuck</i> and [grinding teeth and making Marge Simpson "<i><b>Hrrrrnnnnnnnnnnn!</b></i>" sound] <i>The Game Plan</i>, the near Fall's comedic slate looks thin, and I see very little geared toward that all-important 'tweener-to-teenage demographic between now and Sept. 28.  But, yeah, looking at the Wednesday and Thursday totals, I see what you mean.  

Time will, as always, tell (Oh, Time, you mouthy tattle-taler, you!), but I think you might be closer than me on this one.  (See, folks?  <b><u>NEVER</u> <u>ARGUE</u> WITH THE REGULAR COLUMNISTS!!!  </b>LOL...)

I remain, as always...  Unemployed.  [Laughing]]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Top 3 Highest Grossing september film are going to be

1.The Kingdom
2.Resdient Evil Extinction
3.Shoot'Em Up or 3:10 To Yuma]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ you think resident evil will do better than halloween?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <b><u>Bless you Michael Bay. Armageddon is a masterpiece.</u></b>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Shryke, I liked how you defined and separated satire and spoof.  I would have too a with you that I love watching the comic sense point out something without eye winking and telescoping the joke out.

I have always felt a good comedy was the hardest genre of film to make.  Maybe because I thought that if you fail at any other it can become comic.  What can one do witha comedy that isn't funny?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It doesnt look like too many people on this board think the Brave One is going to do well.  The reviews I have read seem good.

Im just curious, how has the marketing been in the States...Im over here in the UK so I dont get to see US marketing...

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				<description><![CDATA[ Writing from Canada but we share a lot of mutual media. Warner's included a trailer on the '300' dvd and that will give it a serious boost. I've been seeing trailers theatrically since ... 'Bourne Ultimatum' I think, and where I am anyway, heavy saturation of tv ads. ]]></description>
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		<cite>A_Roode wrote:</cite><br>
		<blockquote>Writing from Canada but we share a lot of mutual media. Warner's included a trailer on the '300' dvd and that will give it a serious boost. I've been seeing trailers theatrically since ... 'Bourne Ultimatum' I think, and where I am anyway, heavy saturation of tv ads. &nbsp;
		</blockquote>

Thanks A_Roode.  I got burned on Startdust in my last league because it was basically unmarketed--which I didn't know until it was too late.

I still haven't decided if I'm going to go with The Brave One yet, but every little helps. :)]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think you're all underestimating the appeal of Jodie Foster; she carried Contact, Flightplan, and Panic Room all to more than $90 million each, and none of them were even great movies to start with; people (I think mainly women, but perhaps some men, too) enjoy her films

Also, what's the thread between the three movies of her's that I mentioned? They're all adult themed thrillers, which is the genre of The Brave One

Therefore, I would not be surprised if Brave One made $80 million or higher]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I like Jodie Foster.  Then again, I like Christain Bale, Brad Pitt and whats his name Gladiator guy (lol).  Its a tough call...]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <b><u>Bless you Michael Bay. Armageddon is a masterpiece.</u></b>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The brave one is going to be retarted because it has jodie doing the same role she always does.  Her attitude never changes and thats why most of her movies are Lame-O!  I think the biggest grosser for September is going to be between Resident Evil and Good Luck Chuck.  Both have been Marketed out the Wazoo in America.  And both have a pretty big fan base.  Chuck has Cook.  And Resident Evil has done really well with BO in the past.  If you ask me the kingdom doesn't stand a chance.  With as many people that say they are against the war now.  They would all be a bunch of Hippocrits if they went to watch a movie about the war.  Although America is comprised of a lot of hippocrits.  And I do mean alot.  I love this country to death but we got some problems that need dealing with.  Especially with the big mouth celebs that think because they're famous they are great politicans.  Mainly speaking abouth Gere here.  Just curious.  How many people in the Film Actors Guild or whatevers its called went to college.  How many actors period dropped out of school to be big shot actors.  And the ones that did go to college.  How many have studied government and economics.  Well I am currently doing so and I personally think these retard millionaires need to keep their big mouths shut and go back to swimming in their money.  Just because they played in a few political films does not give them the right to speak out against political injustice like they're some kind of college professor or something.  they mock the bush admisistration but theres a reason those guys are in office and retards are actors.
If Any Actors or agents are patrolling this site, I suggest you do your selves a frickin favor and stop spending your backing already rich senators who say they're going to change the world and use your money for a real cause and help it yourself.  How much food can you buy with the millions of dollars spent backing rich politicians.  Anybody else see the flaws in this system.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Why would a person who's anti-war be a hypocrite for watching a War movie? They would only be so if the proceeds of the film went directly to Bush's military budget. I could argue that anti-war people are simply interested in seeing what the war is like. I don't know much about it, but is The Kingdom blatently pro-war? If so, then those opposed to Bush's war on terror should avoid it. But I imagine the film is more ambiguous, showing both sides, the heroism and the tragedy. Correct me if I'm wrong. 

As for actors, well I think they should participate in politics. But I'd prefer if they read up on politics  bit more instead of spouting generalisms. Actually, I'd prefer if they put their money where their mouth is and donated half of their earnings directly to charity. But hey, at least some Americans have heard of Darfur, and if it wasn't for actors like Clooney, nobody in the USA would have heard about what's going on. It may not change, but awareness can help. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think 'The Game Plan' will be up there for September grosses. There haven't been any family releases since Mr. Bean's Holiday, and afterwards, there aren't any (except for 'The Seeker,' but who cares?) until 'Bee Movie.' Looks like 'The Pacifier,' and how terrible did everyone think that'd do? Or 'Wild Hogs'? (Speaking of which, I discovered today that Disney is making a buddy comedy called 'Old Dogs,' with John Travolta, Robin Williams, and Bernie Mac. I feel like I've seen that formula somewhere before...)]]></description>
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		<cite>numbersix_99 wrote:</cite><br>
		<blockquote>Why would a person who's anti-war be a hypocrite for watching a War movie? They would only be so if the proceeds of the film went directly to Bush's military budget. I could argue that anti-war people are simply interested in seeing what the war is like. I don't know much about it, but is The Kingdom blatently pro-war? If so, then those opposed to Bush's war on terror should avoid it. But I imagine the film is more ambiguous, showing both sides, the heroism and the tragedy. Correct me if I'm wrong. 

As for actors, well I think they should participate in politics. But I'd prefer if they read up on politics  bit more instead of spouting generalisms. Actually, I'd prefer if they put their money where their mouth is and donated half of their earnings directly to charity. But hey, at least some Americans have heard of Darfur, and if it wasn't for actors like Clooney, nobody in the USA would have heard about what's going on. It may not change, but awareness can help. &nbsp;
		</blockquote>

also, isn't the kingdom a movie about a bombing in saudi arabia?? :S]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ My biggest frustration with politics and Hollywood is this- there is an excessive bias in the movers and shakers that clouds their creative range.  There is a reason California is called called 'the left coast', and it's not only because of its geographical location.  When is the last time you have seen Hollywood release anything that was pro conservative?  When is the last time you have seen Hollywood actually defend an openly conservative Hollywood player?  I have yet to see a pro Iraqi war documentary made through Hollywood.  And all those who were ready to tar and feather Mel Gibson, where are they to capture Roman Polanski so he can serve jail time for raping a minor? 

I no problem with someone in Hollywood disagreeing with my opinion- it is part of our 'freedoms' in America- to use our brains and creat perceptions of the world.  But their hogging the stage is angering to me and a pathetic display of power.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <b><u>Bless you Michael Bay. Armageddon is a masterpiece.</u></b>]]></description>
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		<cite>jameydunne wrote:</cite><br>
		<blockquote> And all those who were ready to tar and feather Mel Gibson, where are they to capture Roman Polanski so he can serve jail time for raping a minor? &nbsp;
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Polanski didn't rape her, it was consentual. She was just underage. Not that I think that's okay or anything. 

The only film I could conceive as pro-war is World Trade Centre]]></description>
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		<cite>numbersix_99 wrote:</cite><br>
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		<cite>jameydunne wrote:</cite><br>
		<blockquote> And all those who were ready to tar and feather Mel Gibson, where are they to capture Roman Polanski so he can serve jail time for raping a minor? &nbsp;
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Polanski didn't rape her, it was consentual. She was just underage. Not that I think that's okay or anything. 

The only film I could conceive as pro-war is World Trade Centre&nbsp;
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Just to be clear, by law having sex with a minor (in this case 14 yrs old) is considered rape.  So, yes, he did rape her.  Anyway...]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ah, thanks for clearing that up, Lovely. That's the last time I'll ever defend Polanski. And now I know the definition of statuatory rape. You learn something new every day!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Famous people suck.  They are just idiots with money.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ah, but cRAzY, you are missing the bigger question involving celebrites and their stupidity.  The question you should be asking is this- Who is the the idiotic fool spouting moronic speeches and actions or the audience wh is voluntarily paying to watch these people do stupid things, a la Enquirer.  I would easily argue the person who takes the BS and buys it, fills their head with it, and later complains about how it is petty and stupid about what he readsis the larger fool.  When people boldly proclaim profoundly stupid things and you're having a long day, remember you have three answers.  Shut up and allow them to talk themselves stupid.  Walk a away from the sitiuation.  And up and defend the innocent parties.

I would give the tazer idea, but I wouldn't reccommend it.  No one will let me have one.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Nice one.  I can't argue with that one because thats probably the best thing to do. I still think they should sell a mansion or two and at least get a dam ged though.  Maybe even a little college?  Is that too much to ask.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <i>"Who is the the idiotic fool spouting moronic speeches and actions or the audience wh[o] is voluntarily <b>paying </b>to watch these people do stupid things [?]"</i>

<b>jamey</b>, when I read this, I thought of Alec Guiness:  "Who's the bigger fool?  The fool, or the fool who follows him?"  Nice Jedi skills, there.  Remember, though, your tricks will work only on the weak-minded.  [Grin]

And I agree wholeheartedly with your philosophy / counsel, most especially "Shut up and allow them to talk themselves stupid."  The <i><b><u>truly</u></b></i> idiotic / insane / dangerous of this world are very, very easy to identify.  They always tell you exactly what they [snort, giggle] think, and the real monsters almost always tell you precisely what they plan to do, if you'll only listen to them closely enough.  (This is why <i>The Incredibles </i>was so very, very profound in its depiction of "monologuing.")  

"Celebrity" is an odd thing.  There are plenty of famous, even notorious, people, in my opinion, who <u><i>aren't</i></u> <b>celebrities</b>, exactly.  "Celebrity" to me implies a level of vacuous, unimpeded banality, of concentrated irrelevance and in fact utter uselessness, a crushing, brutalizing, tortured tiresomeness, that is a function of neither popularity nor visibility, nor "success."  Case in point:  Ben Affleck.  He's (in)famous, certainly, but I wouldn't so callously insult him as to call him a "celebrity."  He's done good works, he's talented, he's capable.  Now, Anna Nicole Smith?  Not to disparage the grateful dead, but she was pretty much the <u><i><b>epitome</b></i></u> of celebrity, having so little value (apart from her implicit worth as a human being, of course) that she was famous, for all intents and purposes, merely for <i><u><b>being</b></u></i> famous.  Paris Hilton's another one, or at least has been, historically.  Nicole Ritchie?  Yep.  Lindsay Lohan is teetering on the brink as we speak, having pissed, snorted, and screwed away (not to put <i><u>too</u></i> fine a point on it) her not inconsiderable gifts... and Britney Spears?  Well, her talent pool got drained years ago, and it was only ever a kiddie pool at that.  Put it another way -- If this were the 23rd Century, that moron'd be winging her way to Carousel, and thank God.

Btw, I hear B.S. (what an unfortunate, if decidedly appropriate, set of initials) will be "performing" (Lord, no, not <i><u>AGAIN</u></i>) at the Emmy Awards ceremony.  I can't tell which comes off looking <b>more</b> irrelevant -- Britney, or the Emmys.  Can you?


<i>Identify</i>.  <b>BLAMMO!</b>  And there was much rejoicing...


I remain, as always...

Nico.]]></description>
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1.The Kingdom (biggest moneymaker)

2.Eastern Promises (Best for Ultimate)

3.The Game Plan (good moneymaker because of it's rating)]]></description>
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		<cite>calted1980 wrote:</cite><br>
		<blockquote> :lol:

1.The Kingdom (biggest moneymaker)

2.Eastern Promises (Best for Ultimate)

3.The Game Plan (good moneymaker because of it's rating)&nbsp;
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You got it! I did not think that Eastern would hit of as huge as it did but I am enjoying it's success. Hopefully, I will actually be able to enjoy seeing it sometime soon!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I personally think the game plan will make the most.  But thats just me.  The Kingdom looks okay.  But nothing more than that.  Just another black hawk down for me.  And I only saw parts of that one.  Im not a big fan of war movies.  Always the same.  ]]></description>
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		<cite>cRAzY wrote:</cite><br>
		<blockquote>I personally think the game plan will make the most.  But thats just me.  The Kingdom looks okay.  But nothing more than that.  Just another black hawk down for me.  And I only saw parts of that one.  Im not a big fan of war movies.  Always the same.  &nbsp;
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				<description><![CDATA[ I tend to agree.  In fact, the <u><b>only</b></u> war films I've ever seen that truly broke the mould, for me, were:  <i>Empire of the Sun</i>, <i>Schindler's List</i>, <i>The Thin Red Line</i>, <i>Downfall</i>, and<i> Pan's Labyrinth</i>.  (And a few of these, honestly, can only <i>nominally </i>be termed "war films.")  Though <i>Band of Brothers </i>is the (for lack of a better word) <i><u>conventional</u></i> war film at its very best.

Still, I hope you give <i>The Kingdom </i>a look, though if <i>Saving Private Ryan </i>and <i>Black Hawk Down </i>failed to impress / nauseated you, well, perhaps there's no need for you to rush.


I remain, as always...

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				<description><![CDATA[ Has anyone out there seen Tigerland besides me?  I think it is one of the coolest war themed movies I have ever seen.  Another war movie that really impressed me was We Were Soldiers, a Mel Gibson movie.  That one actually talks about what the women went through while their men were off to war. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah, I liked <i>Tigerland</i>, matter of fact it's probably my third-favorite Schumacher film (after <i>Falling Down </i>and <i>A Time to Kill</i>).  <i><u>We Were Soldiers Once... And Young</u> </i>was a favorite book of mine, I just didn't feel the film did it justice.  And I was really, really, really looking forward to it, too...

I remain, as always...

Nico.

ETA:  Another fave war film I forgot to mention earlier was Jean-Jacques Annaud's <i>Enemy at the Gates</i>, which brought the Nazi invasion of Russia -- one of the most important, brazen, wholly destructive engagements of history's greatest war -- down to a very interesting, personal level.  Worth a look!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Nico, I didn't realize Schumaker directed Falling Down.  I loove the stark humored tone of that movie.  It's kind of a precursor to Fight Club (one of my darkest and devious favorites).

I never had the opportunity to read the book that We Were Soldiers was based off of, but according to the DVD special, the author said he was very satisfied with the adaptation (view accordingly).  I guess it is similar to Seabiscuit- I listen to the book on tape and the thought the book was better than the movie, but it was more because of limitations of film (mostly length, cost issues to do everything in the book) that made the book superior.  But that doesn't decrease my love for the movie.  Just two solid variations on a story I could fall in love with.

Have you ever seen the Bosnian(?) film No Man's Land? That movie broke my heart.  The end wasn't twist shocking, but I was surprised on the films willingness to end the movie the way it did. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The book is <i>always</i> better than the movie.

I agree on your views of Enemy At the Gates, it is a great, oft overlooked film that really gets into the mind behind war. 
Unfortunately, ephasis on recent war movies from that time always goes to Saving Private Ryan or Black Hawk Down - both of which were primarily a systemic shock to show viewers the brutality and courage in times of war. Additionally, Pearl Harbor shows the heart of war, but was so focused on the disruption of relatively happy lives, and not on the actual war that to me it missed its mark.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ becs, I have to slightly disagree with you.  I would have to say the primary material (be it a book, play, another movie) is usually better than the adapted material.  Two examples I can think of are the movie High Fidelity and the movie Blade.  High Fidelty tamed a lonely, desparate character who is bordering on buthead stalker into a heartbroken man trying to figure out what happened and how he could get her back.  It made the lead likeable.  Blade took a Z-level Marvel hero cleaned up his story line with out losing the core of its origin.  In fact, the movie adaptation was so successful that it changed the comic representation.

I'm sure there are others, but that's what I can think of now.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Gotta agree with <i>High Fidelity</i>.

I remain, as always...

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				<description><![CDATA[ Okay, I will specfy then - as I haven't read High Fidelity, no movie adaptation of a book/comic/play, <i>that I have experienced</i> has surpassed the original material.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ok for my fall threesome forcast.
1-"The Kingdom"
2-"Resident Evil: Extinction"
3-"The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford"
  The last coming close to being the longest title that I can recall.Bested only by (1967)"Oh Dad Poor Dad Mama's Hung You in the Closet and I'm Feeling so Sad",and the all-time long title champ(1962)"Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb".
 Can anyone think of longer titled film?Also Jamey (2000)"Tigerland" was one of those little gem of a movie to me.Knockout performance from then young actor named Colin Farrell really shined.It's now part of my DVD collection.
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm thinking that <i>The Positively True Adventures of the Alleged Texas Cheerleader-Murdering Mom </i>comes pretty close, but, then, it was made for television.  We also have <i>The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension</i>, however, as well as <i>Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex * But Were Afraid to Ask </i>(look, <b>Chien</b>, I'm talking up a <b><u>WOODY</u> <u>ALLEN</u> </b>film!  Now, please open your hymnals to the Book of Revelations...)  LOL...

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		<cite>becs wrote:</cite><br>
		<blockquote>The book is <i>always</i> better than the movie.

I agree on your views of Enemy At the Gates, it is a great, oft overlooked film that really gets into the mind behind war. 
Unfortunately, ephasis on recent war movies from that time always goes to Saving Private Ryan or Black Hawk Down - both of which were primarily a systemic shock to show viewers the brutality and courage in times of war. Additionally, Pearl Harbor shows the heart of war, but was so focused on the disruption of relatively happy lives, and not on the actual war that to me it missed its mark.&nbsp;
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What is with this Enemy at the Gates appreciation? It's a disaster of a movie. Leaving aside the atrocious accents (which I'm finding very difficult to do. Really, guys, Amadeus didn't bother with accents and it was for the best), the story was flimsy. There's potential for something good, the battle of Stalingrad, the heroic snipers (although in reality they were a fake means of raising morale), etc. But it just got so silly. I laughed at the Sniper Sex Scene, and of Harris's and Law's superhuman sniping senses. Give me a break. This is one of the many films that slips between actio and drama, too silly to be one, but not exciting enough to be the other. Shame on you all. 

As for the book being better, Bec, just read any of the forgettable books Hitchcock adapted. Or The Godfather. Or The Shining. Or Barry Lyndon. Hell, even Lord of the Rings was more entertaining than those 1000 pages of Elvish songs, endless descriptions of walking, and distracting histories. 
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				<description><![CDATA[ A quick search on Google reveal these titles:

#1 Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Son of the Bride of the Return of the Revenge of the Terror of the Attack of the Evil, Mutant, Alien, Flesh Eating, Hellbound, Zombified Living Dead Part 2: In Shocking 2-D (1991)

#2 The Fable of the Kid Who Shifted His Ideals to Golf and Finally Became a Baseball Fan and Took the Only Known Cure (1916)

#3 Homework, or How Pornography Saved the Split Family from Boredom and Improved their Financial Situation (1990)

#4 The Lemon Grove Kids Meet the Green Grasshopper and the Vampire Lady from Outer Space (1965)]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [Laughing]  One thing I friggin' <i>love </i>about <b>Six</b>, he (I'm <u><i>pretty</i></u> sure, but, <b><u>okay</u></b>, fine...  [sigh]) / <i>she </i> speaks his / her mind; doesn't flinch away from taking tough, uncompromising positions (even, when it's against the grain, at least for the time being); and he (she) can back up everything he (she!) says.  (Okay, that's, like, <i><u>three</u> </i>things.)   There's a professional critic in there somewhere, or, at least, Triple-A.  Good stuff.

Re:  <i>Enemy at the Gates</i>...  It's clear that the same things don't always ring everyone's bells equally.  My own appreciation for <i>Enemy at the Gates</i> has several levels -- including <i>Base</i>, <i>Wasteland </i>and <i>Citadel </i>(yes, my dear colleagues, that's a <u><i>Penny Arcade</i></u>-esque reference to <i>Halo 3</i>, calm down, I am one with nerddom, and if you can't appreciate that, well, <i>pwn </i>off) -- and as I mentioned earlier, its attempt to "personalize" a great and almost unmanageable conflict, its presentation of history's greatest conflagration as epic <i><u>individual</u> </i>struggle, is tops among them.  You must also consider, I'm a big, big fan of both Jude Law <i>and</i> Ed Harris (Harris in a Nazi officer's rig, truly, geeked me out even more than Doogie Howser, SS) -- I've been convinced that Law is his generation's Alec Guiness ever since <i>Gattaca </i>and <i>The Talented Mr. Ripley</i>; unfortunately, apart from <i>Road to Perdition</i>, he has yet to deliver on his exceptional promise.  However, I digress.  (<i>Enemy at the Gates </i>was also the first film Rachel Weisz appeared in, where I actually took notice of and appreciated her.  Though her turn in the <b><u><i>other</i></u></b> <i>Sunshine</i>, another WWII film, was outstanding also, I didn't see that film for the first time until much later.)  

Surely, tho (and <u><i>don't</i></u> call me, "Shirley!"), you can't fault <i>Gates </i>for its cinematography, set design or sound (effects <u><b><i>OR</i></b></u> mixing, a point I'll take up in a separate post later this weekend); while it's not <i>Saving Private Ryan</i>, exactly, it didn't try to be, and, actually, that was sort of the point.  And, lastly, I love its presentation of the cat-and-mouse standoff between Private Zaitsev and Major König -- one of my particular, shall we say, film <i>fetishes</i>, is combat as ballet, and there have been few cinematic protrayals of war more carefully choreographed, more artfully articulated, than the climactic scenes of <i>Enemy at the Gates</i>.  (<i>Full Metal Jacket</i>, <i>The Thin Red Line</i>, <i>Band of Brothers</i>, and, of course, <i>Saving Private Ryan </i>also did this especially well... as well as<i> Gears of War</i>.  It's a mad world.)   

I agree, however, <i>Gates </i>has its share of flaws.  (As far as accents go, well, I stopped being so particular about that after, quite insanely, defending Sean Connery's culture-annihilating turn at <i>Russkiy </i>in <i>The Hunt for Red October</i>, when I was pointed out, quite correctly, to be a total friggin' hypocrite.  And I haven't seen a Costner role, yet, where he <i><u>hasn't</u></i> managed to completely f@&# up the dialogue -- the man, against all odds, even manages to make <u><i>English</i></u> sound as if it's his second language, or sixth.  Maybe he should just stick to made-up dialects, like PortuGreek, or that silly sh!t he spewed out in <i>Thirteen Days</i>, which made Ray Winstone sound like he was <u><i><b>born</b></i></u> on West Broad, between B and C Streets in Southie.  However, I digress.)  The editing (common for good-to-near-great films) is only mediocre, and Joseph Fiennes is mainly there for window dressing.  You had it spot-on, about the untapped potential of the story...  You clearly know your history.  (In addition to Craig's excellent book, btw, another terrific overview of the Battle can be found in Edwin Hoyt's <i><u>199 Days</u></i>.)  And, yeah, the Supersniper stuff <i><u>was</u> </i>bad, but, I must say, it was still better than the STA eye candy we got in the profoundly disappointing <i>Jarhead</i>.  (But, then, snipers haven't really gotten their due in film, have they?  <i>Assassins</i>, <i>Higher Learning</i>, <i>The Jackal</i>... The very best sniper film, ever, might just be <i>Saving Private Ryan</i>, though for my money <i>The Usual Suspects</i> comes pretty close, too   It's just so much easier to stage stuff blowing up, than the intimate choreography of the pristine killshot...  If only John Frankenheimer had lived...  perhaps Sydney Pollack will one day embrace his inner Oswald.) 

"<i>Shame on you all.</i>"  [Hanging head]  Am I being sent to the Naughty Chair?

Funny you should mention <i>Amadeus </i>-- my wife and I just watched that, again, the other week.  (She'd forgotten how immature and profane Hulce's portrayal really was.)  What the Hell <u><i><b>happened</b></i></u> to Tom Hulce, anyway?

"<i>Hell, even Lord of the Rings was more entertaining than those 1000 pages of Elvish songs, endless descriptions of walking, and distracting histories.</i>"  Well, that's just insane.

What's not to love?

"<i>There hammer on the anvil smote, /
There chisel clove, and graver wrote; /
There forged was bladed and bound was hilt; /
The delver mined the mason built. /
There beryl, pearl, and opal pale /
And metel wrought like fishes' mail, / 
Buckler and corslet, axe and sword, /
And shining spears were laid in horde.</i>"


"<i>The Lemon Grove Kids Meet the Green Grasshopper and the Vampire Lady from Outer Space (1965)</i>"...  And Spielberg wants to remake <i>When Worlds Collide</i>?  Piker. 


Enjoyed it!


I remain, as always...

Cook's Assistant Nico Loganov.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Doogie Howser in SS. It took me a while to get, but man that cracks me up!!!!!

I see your point about Enemy, Nico, but I don't feel it. It's the wasted potential in Enemy at the Gates that realy gets to me. Cinematography and sound mixing/effects are way down in my list of appreciating thing. You could film something on a camera phone, but if its scripted well, performed well, and means something to me, then that's all that matters. 

You yourself pointed something very true about the likes of recent Scorsese, about films being too perfect to appreciate. For me, Taxi Driver will always be my favourite because it's edgy, not just because of its subject matter, but also they way it was filmed, and the feel of it. It feels almost spontaneous, like a documentary. Which is why I value Mean Streets and Taxi Driver over Goodfellas and The Departed. 

And please, please tell me you had to look up the book in order to quote that Elvish sing-song. 

PS you're sexist default mode is right, for I am a gent. Well, either that or a lad with three legs, and one of them sure is deformed...

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		<cite>numbersix_99 wrote:</cite><br>
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As for the book being better, Bec, just read any of the forgettable books Hitchcock adapted. Or The Godfather. Or The Shining. Or Barry Lyndon. Hell, even Lord of the Rings was more entertaining than those 1000 pages of Elvish songs, endless descriptions of walking, and distracting histories. 
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The SHINING.. seriously???? The book was immensely superior to either adaptation on film. Lord of The Rings is a <i>classic</i>, I've read all 3 books, and The Hobbit (which is far slower moving), <b>several</b> times and they never get old because of their brilliantly crafted story, that is a rarity in modern writing.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <b>Six of 99</b>:  


"<i>Doogie Howser...SS...man that cracks me up!!!!</i>!"   

[Grin]  Me, too.


"<i>It's the wasted potential in </i>Enemy at the Gates <i>that realy gets to me.</i>"  

To quote Mr. The King from <i>Cars</i>:  "Well, son, I sure can respect that."  There are some near-great and near-miss titles that frustrate the heck out of <u><i><b>me</b></i></u>, too.  (Like, <i>The Good Shepherd</i>.)  I feel ya, I really do.  (Figuratively speaking, <b><u>only</u></b>, Mr. Humble Tripod.)

(Hmmmm...  <b>Humble Tripod</b>.  Anyone need a name for their garage band?  You can have it for ten bucks.  Make all checks and money orders payable to The Nico Foundation for a Better Tomorrow, and a Thoroughly Forgotten Yesterday.

However, I digress.


"<i>Cinematography and sound mixing/effects are way down in my list of appreciating thing. You could film something on a camera phone, but if its scripted well, performed well, and means something to me, then that's all that matters.</i>"

Spike Lee's your man.


"<i>For me, </i>Taxi Driver <i>will always be my favourite...not just because of its subject matter, but also they way it was filmed, and the feel of it. It feels almost spontaneous, like a documentary. Which is why I value </i>Mean Streets <i>and </i>Taxi Driver <i>over </i>Goodfellas <i>and </i>The Departed."  

[Nodding]  Amen, brother, and amen, and amen.  Though (in spite of its myriad niggling editing and continuity goofs and missteps) <i>The Departed </i>is a pretty damn good film.   


"<i>[P]lease, please tell me you had to look up the book in order to quote that Elvish sing-song.</i>"

Errrrrrrmmmmmmmmm... Sorry, can't do that.  (It was on the Internet.)   "<i><b><u>Sing</u>-song</b></i>"?!?!?!  WTF?!?!?


"<i>I am a gent. Well, either that or a lad with three legs, and one of them sure is deformed..."</i>

Gee, I sure am sorry to hear that, Stumpy.  [Wicked grin]  Oh, and dude?  T.  M.  I.  [Still grinning]  (Then again... you have your mutant appendage... but I have <b><i>my</i></b> "enchanted quill."  [Insert Beavis and Butt-head-esque snarkling here.]


"<i>I remain, as always... A MAN</i>."

Glad to hear it.  (Is that in Jordan?)


<i><b><u>I</u></b></i> remain, as always...

Nico, the Peg-Legged Pirate. <i> <b>Arr</b>-rrrrr!</i>



P.S. ...


"<i>Ye-heah...  Um, he said, 'Pirate'.  Uh-huh-huh-huh, huh.</i>"

"<i>Heh!  Heh!  He means, uhhhh, <b><u>BUTT</u></b>-pirate, right?  Heh, heh-<u>HEH</u>, heh!  <b><u>Boi</u></b>-ooooiiiiiiinnnnnnnggggg!  Heh-heh, heh, heh, hemmm...  Nachos <u><b>RULE</b></u>!!</i>"]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Holy sh*te.

Does ANYONE else here read Nico's stuff and just laugh till he falls out his chair crying?  

If laughter is the best medicine, dude, well, you just became my personal HMO.  (And before you snicker again, Beavis, note that there is NOT an additional "O" beween the H and the M.)

Heh heh.  You said "Butt Pirate".  Heh heh heh.

<a href='http://www.theedge1039.com/MORNING/LASTCHARACTERSTANDING/AUDIO/pinkbeard02.mp3' target='_new' rel="nofollow">http://www.theedge1039.com/MORNING/LASTCHARACTERSTANDING/AUDIO/pinkbeard02.mp3</a>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Just saw <i>Eastern Promises</i> yesterday.  Wow.

In a word:  astonishing.  A truly great film from beginning to end.  I think it even deserves to be ranked up there with <i>The Godfather</i> for the best organized crime films of all-time.

Outstanding performances from Cassel, Watts, Mueller-Stahl, and especially Viggo Mortensen, perhaps his best ever.  If he and director Cronenberg don't get an Oscar nom, as well as Best Picture, I'll be very surprised (and disapointed).

And with <i>The Kingdom</i> coming next week and <i>American Gangster</i> in just over a month... maybe this season isn't so bad after all.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah Shryke its pretty damn good season i might have to see Eastern Promises now. The Kingdom this weekend yeah its gonna be awesome.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <b><u>Bless you Michael Bay. Armageddon is a masterpiece.</u></b>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I liked crash.  But I'm not sure it deserved best picture.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You're definitely right about Crash. Although you have to admit, it had an amazing cast (notably Brendan Fraser and Sandra Bullock) that made the contrived story work more than it rightfully deserved to.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <i>Crash </i>was a very good film, but, no, it <u><i>didn't</i></u> deserve Best Picture, not by a long shot.  And neither did any of the other Best Picture nominees.

In a <b><i>perfect</i> </b>world, the five finalists for Best Picture, 2006 would have been:

<i>Cinderella Man</i>;
<i>The Constant Gardner</i>;
<i>North Country</i>;
<i>Syriana</i>; and
<i>Walk the Line</i>...

...and <i><b><u>Walk the Line</u> </b></i>would have won.


It's just my opinion.


I remain, as always...


Nico.
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				<description><![CDATA[ <b><u>Bless you Michael Bay. Armageddon is a masterpiece.</u></b>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>Suspiciously missing something, something containing a MANimal that likes to screw Scientology types who live down by Dawson's Creek. &nbsp;
		</blockquote>

Errrrrrmmmmmmmm...  <i>War of the Worlds</i>?  <i>Murderball</i>?  <i>Wallace & Gromit in The Curse of the Were-Rabbit</i>?


I remain, as always...


Bloody friggin' clueless.  [Grin]]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Walk the Line? Oh dear Nico, you should walk the plank for that one. 

The film was an overglorified TV movie about a musician's rise to fame and descent into drug use. I'm sure it's working title was Cocaine Blues: The Johnny Cash Story, or something. Sure, its two leads were decent, but if it wasn't for the music, the film would have stunk like a portaloo. 

For me, Syriana, The Constant Gardener, 40 Year old Virgin, The Squid and the Whale, and Grizzly Man were all far more better and substantial films with much stronger performances. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I just came in here to tip my hat to Mr. Nicodemus. I had to pleasure to watch the Kingdom last night at my theatre's preview and his review was spot on. To the tee. I wasn't expected to get emotionally involved in it but it really gripped me.  And the history lesson in beginning is priceless. I would recommend this movie just for the first half hour and the last half hour. It great stuff.

And I saw Eastern Promises as well and it was as amazing as I had hyped it up to be. I have to agree with Shryke's take on it. Viggo carried that film! The film was just so raw and unrelenting. 

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				<description><![CDATA[ <b><u>Bless you Michael Bay. Armageddon is a masterpiece.</u></b>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ahhhh, I get it now.  I really <u><i><b>was</b></i></u> thinking you meant <i>War of the Worlds</i>, since Ton Cruise <u><i><b>does</b></i></u>, in fact (if you believe his press agent, anyway) "screw Scientology types who live down by Dawson's Creek."  But, now that you've so generously re-iterated that whole "<u><i><b>MAN</b></i></u>" clue, I believe I've got it...


It's Tyler Perry's <i>Diary of a Mad Black Wo<u><b>MAN</b></u></i>, isn't it?  Come on, admit it.  


...Oh, well, then, of course it's <i>The Weather <u><b>MAN</b></u></i>.


...<i>The Perfect <u><b>MAN</b></u></i>?


...<i><b><u>MAN</u> </b>of the House</i>, then.


...<i>Boogey<u><b>MAN</b></u></i>?


...<i>George A. Ro<u><b>M</b></u>ero's L<u><b>AN</b></u>d of the Dead</i>?



I remain, as always...


Nico.  (<i>Pooh's Heffalump Movie</i>?)]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Is It The Running Man or The Man without A Face or Man Of The Year?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hmm... <i>The Running Man Without a Face of the Year</i>.

Sounds like a <b>Hugh Grant </b>movie, directed by <b>Paul Verhoeven</b> and released by AfterDark Films.

(Great, now I won't be able to get to sleep.)


I remain, as always...


Nico.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <b><u>Bless you Michael Bay. Armageddon is a masterpiece.</u></b>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Guys Guys Guys, don't you know a cryptic clue when you see one. 

Tuan must be referring to Batman Begins, starring Katie Holmes (although I wish it didn't). 

Sorry Tuan, have to say it's no contender for my top films of 2005. I think Nolan got it completely wrong. It takes itself far too seriously. The villian's doomsday scheme is so ridiculous that only a madman could concoct it, yet the villain is portrayed as some sort of calm genius. No, definitely didn't work for me. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <b><u>Bless you Michael Bay. Armageddon is a masterpiece.</u></b>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [Sigh]  Once again, my sarcasm goes criminally unappreciated...

I have to say, <i>Batman Begins </i><u><i>almost</i></u> made my <b>own</b> Best Picture list.  Although -- by the barest of margins -- I must say, I personally think <i>Superman Returns </i>is the <u><b>best</b></u> superhero film of all time, including Richard Donner's original <i>Superman</i>.  I know, I'm in the minority here, but, heck, I'm used to that.


I remain, as always...


Nico.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Nico, I suspected you knew the answer, but I wanted to play it safe. Now I'm the stoopid one!

Anyway, I'm just wondering why on earth you like Superman Returns?
I have to say I disliked it immensel. I thought Spacy was far too over-the top (especially in relation to Hackman's suave Luthor). Routhe was well cast, but why are people letting James Marsters into films? 

As for the story, the whole Krypton island was silly and so insignificant that it made the film feel more like an episode as opposed to a feature film. 

SPOILER ALERT

The superboy thing was so obvious from the opening moments that the idea of trying to hide it and tease it for the big reveal felt utterly superfluous

END OF SPOILERS

And finally, yes, I know it's a comic book movie, I know it's not real, but how come nobody questioned the fact that once superman returned, Clarke Kent suddenly re-appeared. No one makes the connection! Are we to assume this is a reality of a much less intelligent human species?

No, I'm afraid I just couldn't enjoy Superman. Sure, the out-of-control air (space?) plane scene was nice, but it's about the only good scene. 

In terms of comic book movies, give me Spiderman, Sin City, Batman and Batman Returns, even the original Superman, way before you throw me another opportunity to pull out my hair at the implausibilities of this film. 

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				<description><![CDATA[ Tuan, you gave him an <b>unedible</b> magical cookie.  :lol: 

<p></p>

		<cite>Nicodemus wrote:</cite><br>
		<blockquote>I must say, I personally think <i>Superman Returns </i>is the <u><b>best</b></u> superhero film of all time, including Richard Donner's original <i>Superman</i>.&nbsp;
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Finally! someone agrees with me. I was never a really big fan of either of the series but I really enjoyed <i>Superman Returns</i>. Im hoping <i>The Dark Knight</i> will strike an interest within me for Batman now.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm sorry but Superman Returns to me was worse than spiderman 3.  3 hour long action movies with 30 minutes of lame-o action just aren't my thing.  At.  All.  Bor_ing.  Batman Begins kicked serious ace because christian bale is a major BA.  and so is Batman.  Therefore it makes sense for the two to be one.  Yay.  Now what about superman.  Brandon Routh.  Seriously.  I understand they didn't want to confuse fans by using tom welling but you would think hollywood could find some who at least pumps some iron every now and then, and not get the only guy whos more of a pansy than Tobey Maguire.  Yeah I'll admit I like both of their acting.  Maguire has his movies. and routh acted pretty good in returns.  But there was not action-o.  no spice-o.  It was....How you say.... el boring-o.  He's frickin superman for crying out loud.  The biggest BA in the comicverse.  And Ang Lees hulk kicked more ace than him.  For Shame.  Rant over.  And I hate to correct you but the black night was a mediocre Martin Lawrence movie.  I think your referring to the dark night.]]></description>
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		<cite>cRAzY wrote:</cite><br>
		<blockquote>And I hate to correct you but the black night was a mediocre Martin Lawrence movie.  I think your referring to the dark night.&nbsp;
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yeah. I was referring to <i>The Dark Knight</i>, thanks.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <b><u>Bless you Michael Bay. Armageddon is a masterpiece.</u></b>]]></description>
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		<cite>numbersix_99 wrote:</cite><br>
		<blockquote>
In terms of comic book movies, give me Spiderman, Sin City, Batman and Batman Returns, even the original Superman, way before you throw me another opportunity to pull out my hair at the implausibilities of this film. 

[dismount soapbox]&nbsp;
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What you are getting at here (and I think so is Nico) is a difference of taste that really comes down fundamentally to comic book vs graphic novel.  Graphic novel stylism, and that gritty dark feel that you and I love so much has had a big upswing recently, its where we are getting movies like Batman Begins, 300, Sin City, and 30 Days of Night. 
I think what Nico is saying is he has an appreciation of the classic comic book style - cheesy and over the top. Its a whole different genre, which revels in being ridiculous and squeaky clean, very 50's - which I think Superman  Returns did a good job of re-creating, however with our modern cynicism and over exposure we find unbelievable and un-entertaining.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Becs, 

Good point, my taste naturally leans to graphic novels. But I still don't feel that excuses Superman Returns. I mean, while I'm not a huge fan of the new Fantastic four movies, I find them enjoyable- now they really are an example of bright, fluffy, and entertaining, comic books- NOT graphic novels. 

Now, as for Superman Returns, I felt that if it was trying to represent that old, innocent era of comics, i didn't do it very well. It wasn't stylised enough to feel like that. The latter parts especially, which were very moody and gloomy, and overall dull. If representing comic books was Singer's style, he should have been more visually expressive about it. It should have been more fun... like the first Raimi Spiderman movie. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I get the nub of Nico's drift, but to me, <i>Superman Returns</i> didn't really FEEL like a superhero movie, much less a comic-book movie.  Granted, it's been a year since I've seen it and I don't remember what thoughts I was thinking when I was walking out of the theater, but I never got that sense of excitement or passion, even during the "exciting" parts!

<blockquote>I think what Nico is saying is he has an appreciation of the classic comic book style - cheesy and over the top.&nbsp;
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And that's exactly what I like too.  Maybe that was <i>Superman Returns</i>' problem... it was too ponderous, too laid back, not much FUN.  It's exactly why the two <i>Fantastic Four</i> movies are among my favorite comic book/superhero movies EVER.  Good effects, good drama, good villains, great stunts, and just the right amount of cheese.  And it took itself seriously enough that I didn't feel that the actors were phoning in their performances, but not so seriously that simply watching this movie was meant to be a life-changing experience (you hear me, Tobey?).

I said  this in my review of FF2; I don't go into this type of movie looking for Academy Award-worthy performances.  I want to smile, to laugh, to sit on the edge of my seat, to pump my fist ("YEAH, baby!") and to leave the theater thoroughly happy.  For all of its faults, the FF movies did just that.  I'll never say they are the best, but for me, they are among the most <i>enjoyable</i>.  And in that respect, <i>Superman Returns</i> is way at the bottom of the list, right above <i>The Hulk</i> and right below <i>Daredevil</i>.]]></description>
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		<cite>tuan69 wrote:</cite><br>
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Sorry, that doesn't change the fact that Superman Returns was a complete disappointment.

A film like Batman begins = manhood

Superman Returns = just entering puberty.&nbsp;
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<span style="font-size: 11px; line-height: normal">Although i don't totally agree with you, that's <b>hilarious</b>.</span>]]></description>
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		<cite>Shryke42 wrote:</cite><br>
		<blockquote>And that's exactly what I like too.  Maybe that was <i>Superman Returns</i>' problem... it was too ponderous, too laid back, not much FUN.  It's exactly why the two <i>Fantastic Four</i> movies are among my favorite comic book/superhero movies EVER.

[snip]

I said  this in my review of FF2; I don't go into this type of movie looking for Academy Award-worthy performances.  I want to smile, to laugh, to sit on the edge of my seat, to pump my fist ("YEAH, baby!") and to leave the theater thoroughly happy.  For all of its faults, the FF movies did just that.  I'll never say they are the best, but for me, they are among the most <i>enjoyable</i>.  And in that respect, <i>Superman Returns</i> is way at the bottom of the list, right above <i>The Hulk</i> and right below <i>Daredevil</i>.&nbsp;
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Gah, okay, you and I have about the opposite reaction from comicbook movies.

My bottom list (ranked worst to slightly-less-worst):
Spider-Man 3
FF2
X-Men 3
Daredevil
Spider-Man

My top list:
X-Men
Hulk
X-Men 2
Sin City
Constantine (does that one count?)

Notably not included in the lists because I did not see them:
Superman Returns
Catwomen
300
The Punisher

Notably not included in the list because, for some reason, I generally do not associate them with other comic book movies:
Alien vs. Predator
All the Batman movies
All the Superman movies
All the Blade movies
V for Vendetta

Notably not included in the hate list because, for some reason, I did not hate them even though everyone else did:
Hulk (I actually <i>liked</i> this movie...)
Elektra (I did not <i>like</i> it, but I did not <i>hate</i> it)
Ghost Rider (Too many other movies to hate, this one got lucky)
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				<description><![CDATA[ <b>Six</b>:  Just to let you know, I'm not ducking your question about why I love <i>Superman Returns</i>, but I'm going to need a little time to compose my reply.  Watch this space, I'll try to post something coherent by this time tomorrow.  (Hey, there's always a first time for everything, right?)


Oh, tuan?  I agree with exactly 50% of the following...
<blockquote><b>Bryan Singer</b>, DAMN YOU!!!!! You had to leave <i>X-3</i> in the hands of <b>Brett Ratner </b>and then go on and make this pussified version of <i>Superman</i>. DAMN YOU BRYAN SINGER!!!!! &nbsp;
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What Rat B@$t@rd did to the <i>X-Men</i> Trilogy, effectively reducing it to a single decent film and then a superlative sequel, is quite simply unforgiveable.  I hold this man in far greater contempt than I held <b>Joel Schumacher </b>in, for example, right after <i>Batman & Robin</i>...  The man absolutely <u><b>imploded</b></u> what was, potentially, one of the greatest cinematic franchises, <u>ever</u>.  He ought never work in Hollywood again, in my opinion.  And, heck, I've even (for the most part) granted Spew-maker amnesty, a decade later...


<b>becs</b>:  You made some good points, there, when you said:

<blockquote>...[A] difference of taste that really comes down fundamentally to comic book vs graphic novel...  Graphic novel stylism... that gritty dark feel that you and I love so much has had a big upswing recently... [e.g.,] <i>Batman Begins</i>, <i>300</i>, <i>Sin City</i>, and <i>30 Days of Night</i>.  I think what <i>Nico</i> is saying is he <i>has an appreciation of the <u><b>classic</b></u> <u><b>comic</b></u> <u><b>book</b></u> <u><b>style</b></u></i>...  a whole different genre, which revels in being ridiculous and <i><b>squeaky clean</b></i>, <i><b>very <u>50's</u> </b></i>- which I think <i>Superman Returns </i>did a good job of <i><b><u>re-creating</u></b></i>, however with our modern cynicism and over exposure we find unbelievable and un-entertaining. &nbsp;
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[Nodding]  That's part of it, no question, and I may in fact refer to this a bit when I compose my reply to <b>Number Six </b>later on.  Thanks!


...<b>tuan </b>also, perhaps unintentionally since I'm not sure how "serious" he was being with this comment, had a point along these same lines when he said:

<blockquote><i>Batman begins </i>= manhood 

<i>Superman Returns</i> = just entering puberty. &nbsp;
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Not to sound too much like a friend of mine who does this (film commentary) for a living, but, you know, even though I'm a full-grown (and <b>grown</b>... and <u><b><i>GROWN</i></b></u>...) adult, these days, with a kid and a mortgage and investments and disputes with the local fascist, tyrannical Homeowners' Association and an incredibly underfunded retirement fund and all, I still appreciate those films that have the ability to transport me <u><i>back</i></u> to when I was, say, five, six, eight, nine, ten, eleven, or thirteen years old (the ages when, respectively, I first saw:  <i>Star Wars</i>, <i>Close Encounters of the Third Kind</i>, <i>Superman</i>, <i>Star Trek: The Motion Picture</i>, <i>The Black Hole</i>, <i>Tron</i>, <i>E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial</i>,<i> Raiders of the Lost Ark </i>and <i>2010: The Year We Make Contact</i>).  <i>Superman Returns </i>turned the clock back a good twenty-five years for me from <u>JUMP</u>.  (Damn, and the moral of <u><i>THAT</i></u> story is, <b>cRAzY </b>may not <i><u><b>BE</b></u></i> so very, very "crazy," after all... matter of fact, perhaps he's <i>right</i>..  I <u><i><b>AM</b></i></u> middle-aged.)    


I remain, as always...


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				<description><![CDATA[ <span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal">Why I Needed <i>Superman Returns</i></span>
by Nicodemus, special to <u><i>Fantasy Moguls</i></u>


Okay, so here it is:  I love <i>Superman Returns</i>.  I know many of you don't, and I'm sure you have good reasons why.  It was, to be sure, a throwback, as fellow Forum contributor <b>becs </b>mentioned, to an earlier, perhaps quainter, age of comic-book film adaptations... a film, perhaps, far better suited to the '80s, certainly to the '70s, than to this new century of darker, grittier, more indefinably "realistic" graphic-novel descendants.   

<i>Superman Returns </i>has about as much in common with the current, fashionable wave of stripped-down, postmodern, <i>avant-garde </i>superheroes -- the characters of <i>V for Vendetta</i>, <i>Spawn</i>, <u><i>Sandman</i></u>, <i>Wolverine</i> and, of course, <i>Batman Begins </i>/ <u><i>The Dark Knight Returns</i></u> -- as <i>The A-Team </i>has with <i>The Unit</i>, or <i>Mission: Impossible </i>(the television series) has with <i>24</i>, or <i>Battlestar: Galactica </i>[1978] has with <i>Battlestar Galactica</i> [2004].  In <i>Superman Returns</i>, <b>Brian Singer </b>"returned" to a hero who was deliberately, unambiguously, triumphantly and, yes, perhaps idiosyncratically, <u><i>ICONIC</i></u> -- the sort of superhero that harkens back to a time before moral relativism, 9/11 or <u><i>Watchmen</i></u>, who strives to personify not humanity as it <u><i><b>IS</b></i></u> -- ethically conflicted, often selfish, frequently dangerous, awash in moral "grayscale" -- but humanity is it <b><i><u>COULD</u> <u>BE</u></i></b>.  Principled, resolute, dignified, selfless, certain:  More Captain America than, say, The Hood, which perhaps is the reason why Caps was allowed, recently, to "die."  Perhaps the Kal-el of <i>Superman Returns</i> is an anachronism in this day and age; perhaps a world so used to being <u><i><b>WITHOUT</b></i></u> heroes, turned so cynical and bitter and suspicious after seeing so very, very many icons, from <b>Richard Nixon </b>to <b>Barry Bonds</b>, from <b>O.J. Simpson </b>to <b>Diana, Princess of Wales</b>, from <b>Dan Rather </b>to <b>Britney Spears</b>, fumble, fail and fall, will no longer tolerate even the <u><i>myth</i></u> of the truly mighty, the unabashedly magnificent, the pure and decent warrior, the flawless and unimpeachable leader, the honest and incorruptible public servant.  Perhaps we've lost too many <u><i><b>REAL</b></i></u> heroes, on battlefields at home and on the other side of the world, to be able to embrace one that seems, at times, to mock us with his imperviousness, his indomitability, his immortality.  (An "illegal alien," no less!)  I have many theories why America failed to embrace <i>Superman Returns</i>, but no real answers.

But <u><i><b>I</b></i></u> loved it.

Why?  It's a complicated question, and a difficult answer to pin down.  Part of it, to be sure, was nostalgia.  America in 1978, when <b>Richard Donner</b>'s superlative <i>Superman </i>debuted (and when I first saw it), was not so different from America today.  Like today, we were a tired nation, beaten down to the point of despair by failures of leadership, failures of economics, failures of foreign policy.  We were still a year away from the Iran Hostage Crisis, but we'd lost faith already -- after only a year or so -- in our President, a man of deep personal faith, a D.C. outsider, Governor of a southern state who'd promised a return to integrity and bipartisanship and optimism after a scandal that had ripped the Office of the Chief Executive, and by extension the Government, very nearly in two.  (Sound familiar?)  He'd promised a stronger, more prosperous, more <u><i>caring</i></u> America, one that its citizens, and the citizens of the world, could place their faith in again, one that would be a good steward of its people, its power and its many blessings.  What we got were gas shortages, increasing violence toward Americans overseas, a failing economy and a President who was very clearly out of his depth, at one point even counseling Americans in a national radio address to "pray our way out of the darkness."  We were spinning out of control.  And then, <i>Superman </i>came to <u><i>lift</i></u> us out of the darkness on his strong, unyielding back.

A year earlier, we'd been treated to <i>Star Wars</i> and <i>Close Encounters of the Third Kind</i>, which roused and cheered audiences in this country as in all others, but it was different when our hero was so unquestionably <i>human</i>, so unabashedly <u><i>American</i></u>.  Call me a racist, but it's somehow more satisfying to cheer for a <i>homo sapiens </i>than a Wookie, or a 'droid, or a thing that looks like a gray cross between <b>Twiggy </b>and a wolf spider; call me a xenophobe, but I like my heroes even better when they're wearing the Stars and Stripes (Rocky; Supes; American Maid), than when they're adorned in, say, the red phoenix of the Rebel Alliance.  When <i>Superman </i>first winged his way into theaters, <u><i><b>he</b></i></u>, not the then-Governor of California, began a mini-revolution in this country; a return to confidence, to pride, to that can-do spirit that has ever been the greatest asset of this nation.  With <i>Superman</i>, we dared to believe ourselves great again, to think ourselves <i>deserving </i>again, to imagine ourselves <i><u>succeeding</u></i> again, after Watergate and Viet Nam and OPEC and Billy Beer and, God help us, disco.

When Superman flew, he took us with him.  That was the magic of the Donner film.  That, and daring to make, of all things, a <b>comic-book character</b>, <u><i><b>GREAT</b></i></u>.  <i>Superman </i>was the first of the true (now, largely, derided) '80's "action-hero" films -- larger-than-life, iconic, <u><i>heroic</i></u>.   He made an entire nation stand up and cheer, and proud to be American again, if only because, of all the nations in the world, Superman adorned himself in <u><i><b>OUR</b></i></u> colors, saluted <u><i><b>OUR</b></i></u> standard, fought for "truth, justice, and the <u><i><b>AMERICAN</b></i></u> way."  <u><i><b>OUR</b></i></u> way.  He made us believe in ourselves again, to trust in ourselves again.  He showed us how to be proud of ourselves again.  The Reagan Revolution rode the tide of the <i>Superman</i> Salvation.

If you were born after, say, 1980, I'm sure you have <b><u>no</u> <u>idea</u> </b>what I'm talking about.  You would have had to have been there, sure; to those of you who weren't, what I'm talking about might seem like bizarre exaggeration, wanton lunacy, brazen enthusiasm.  It's not.  This happened.  You should have seen the despondency, the defeat, the despair, of Americans in the late 1970s.  We could barely even lift our heads out of our hands long enough to wave a few flags for a decidely uninspirational "celebration" of the Bicentennial.  We were abject, morose, inconsolable.  We'd lost a war, lots of jobs, our confidence in government and, just about, our minds, all in a few short years.  It was <i>Superman</i>, of all things, that first began to change all that.

But let's get down to brass tacks.

One of the things I loved about Donner's original film was its <u><i>SCALE</i></u>.  This was a film that, on all levels, dared to be <u><i><b>great</b></i></u>:  to both portray <u><i>and</i></u> inspire greatness.  Krypton was not, unlike Tatooine, a blighted galactic backwater; its cities towered, its buildings shone.  It was <u><i>the</i></u> repository of knowledge of the twenty-eight known galaxies; if it kept itself at a remove from the remainder of the universe, it was only because it was so much more advanced, more cultured, more...  god-like.  Kal-el was no farmer, no beggar, no thief; he was a prince from the stars, sole heir to a magnificent legacy.  When Kal-el journeyed from his doomed homeworld to the relatively bucolic Earth, he did so not merely by zipping <u><i><b>PAST</b></i></u> the stars, like the Millennium Falcon; he <b><i><u>TRAVELED</u> THE UNIVERSE</i></b>.  We saw, through his eyes, the majesty, the infinite possibility of creation, from supernovae to star nurseries, from black holes to brown dwarfs.  <i>Superman Returns </i>brought that scale back to the franchise; brought it back to <u><i><b>film</b></i></u>, truth be told.  In those opening moments I saw the veil pulled back to reveal the potential of film as a medium, in much the same way that <i>Star Wars</i> and <i>Superman </i>had opened up an entire universe to me so many, many years ago.  The stupendous opening sequence of <i>Superman Returns </i>was no mere facsimile, <i>homage </i>or sequel; it was a promise fulfilled.  The use of <b>John Williams</b>' epic music -- has anyone ever noted the rousing, triumphant similarities between the <i>Theme from Superman </i>and the marches of <b>John Philip Sousa</b>? -- was equally rousing and appropriate.  And the resumption of the original film's spectacular title credits completed the effect; this was no hip, trendy "franchise reboot" -- this was, at long last, a <i>continuation</i> of the greatest superhero story, ever.  Not merely a "worthy successor," but a seamless hand-off.  From the first frames of <i>Superman Returns</i>, I was seven, again.  Kal-el wasn't the only one who'd come home.


   
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				<description><![CDATA[ Superman Returns was the 2nd worst comic book adaption of all time next to the god awful Hulk. Superman Returns sucked because of the dull story and terrible performances by Kate Bosworth and Brandon Routh who is the worst actor i have seen. nuff'said]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm not sure anybody exactly <b>wanted</b> to see <i>Elektra</i> or <i>Catwoman</i>. They looked pretty bad to me but nothing can be much worse than the <i>Hulk</i>.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Becs, I can definitely go along with you on Elektra was the potential of a great movie.  I thought The Hand with gimmick villains where really cool and far too quickly defeated.  I thought the story was solid.

I had two big issues with the movie.  First, Jennifer Garner was miscast for the role. I think she shouldn't have been Elektra in Daredevil either.  Second the movie seemed like it was too short.  (for those, who care I rarely- if ever say that).  The villians came and went like a Darth Maul appearence, that is look at me I'm cool and watch me exit stage left.  They didn't have the time to suffiently do 'their thing'.  The movie is only 80 minutes, if that.
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