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An appeal for sanity to Keyser Soze

mutard7 — GMT

I tried posting this a couple of times in the Half Year B.O. final round message boards, but it doesn't look like it's coming up. So to prove I care way more than I should about somebody I don't know winning a contest with no prizes, I'm re-re-posting here: "My apologies if this is a double post, but I think it ate my last one. Anyway, Keyser, ignore Shryke! Get your old slate back! I picked you to win, man! Only you can save my face! Here's the short version of my longer, eaten post: even crappy Vanguard Animation studios (the makers of Space Chimps) has hit 15 million after a couple of weeks, and that was in the suck of September and January (Valiant and Happily N'Ever After). Plus, this one has space AND chimps! Dude!! Do you even know any kids?! It'll be pocket change compared to Pixar or Dreamworks, but minimum of 15 mil in 18 days, I guarantee. X-Files is murkier in my mind, but because it's got a pre-sold geek fanbase (whether small or large), it'll be seriously front-loaded to opening weekend. Star Trek: Nemesis did 18 mil in 3 days back in 2002, and all but the most die-hard Trekkies (not me, I swear) couldn't even tell you that movie existed. X-Files ain't Trek, but I'd guess you can get another 15 from that. So are you really betting on another R-rated Will Ferrell comedy to open bigger than 30 million? It hasn't happened to him yet. Save yourself. Re-grab your monkey/FBI slate before it's too late! Keyser Soze, you're my only hope!"

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JackO — GMT

:mrgreen: This is going to get interesting!

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geezer9687 — GMT

He Still doesn't have a Chance to come in any better than third.

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leestu — GMT

I agree with Mutard. Space Chimps look terrible to us, but my kids want to see it, and I won't let them see Dark Knight yet, so send the kids to Space Chimps while we see The Dark Knight. Like he says: to kids, how can "Monkeys In Space" not be fun.

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silversurfer19 — GMT

Did you see Burton's version of Planet Of The Apes?? And I am a fan of Burton!!

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Buscemi — GMT

leestu wrote:

I agree with Mutard. Space Chimps look terrible to us, but my kids want to see it, and I won't let them see Dark Knight yet, so send the kids to Space Chimps while we see The Dark Knight. Like he says: to kids, how can "Monkeys In Space" not be fun.

Reason why it won't: Andy Samberg.

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A_Roode — GMT

Dare we consider the possibility that 'The X-files:X-filer' might open better than 'Step Bros' as well? I won't be seeing it, but I was never really a fan. I've got a lot (oh, okay, a couple) of friends who are pretty psyched up for it.

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silversurfer19 — GMT

Well, after Semi Pro's recent lukewarm reception and less than $15m OW, it is certainly possible. In fact, I will say now " X Files will beat Step Brothers in its OW". This is gonna come back to bite me....

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dranscht — GMT

Andy Samberg isn't a reason Space Chimps will fail. You may not like him, heck, I think he's annoying too, but really, kids don't give a monkey's uncle (see what I just did there?) who the voice actors are. We've had this same discussion before on the forums about Mike Myers and Shrek, and just because Seth Rogen provided his voice for Kung Fu Panda doesn't mean you see all the people who love his stuff with Apatow rushing out to see it. The reverse is true as well -- although some may not like Andy Samberg, HE isn't the chief reason Space Chimps would implode.

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Buscemi — GMT

What about the sub-par animation, the poor writing and the lame pop culture references? Now if you want to see a good film about chimps in space, rent Race To Space where James Woods played Werner Von Braun.

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mutard7 — GMT

Buscemi wrote:

What about the sub-par animation, the poor writing and the lame pop culture references? Now if you want to see a good film about chimps in space, rent Race To Space where James Woods played Werner Von Braun.

Oh, I agree it looks awful, but this wasn't supposed to be a quality discussion. I'd rather see Step Brothers than either of the other two (I'd rather see an anesthesia-free nutsackectomy than Space Chimps). The post was just me trying to convince Keyser of a math theorum -- that by July 29th: Space Chimps + X-Files > Step Brothers But on the "monkeys in space" front, I remember reading on some "movies in development" website back around 1996 about a script that I think was called "Mercury V" or something like that. It was about a couple of chimps from the early days of NASA who'd been launched into space and somehow caught some kind of brain-enhancing virus or radiation or something. The mechanism wasn't important - the big idea was that after coming back, the chimps started spreading the brain enhancement to every animal on earth, turning them against humans. Sounds like it would probably be terrible, yes, but at the time it was being developed as a Terry Gilliam project. Tell me that wouldn't have been the most insane movie ever. The only other thing I remember was a description of a scene where an old lady is watching a news report about the growing crisis - she looks over and sees that her dozens of cats are all staring at her - they know that she knows. I have watched that movie in my head roughly a billion times since 1996.

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Buscemi — GMT

Sounds like Planet Of The Apes meets Village Of The Damned. I'm guessing Gilliam didn't want to do another "monkey" film after Twelve Monkeys so that probably why it wasn't made. But that along with other unmade Gilliam projects such The Man Who Killed Don Quixote and the six-hour Watchmen film (I still think Watchmen would only work as a six-hour epic either all at once or as two three-hour films) would make great cinema. Another good "chimps in space" film is Project X with Matthew Broderick and Helen Hunt.

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Kompressr — GMT

I think X-Files and Space Chimps is a better option that Step Brothers, just because SB is rated R, and X-Files is tracking about the same, so SC will be the one to push it over. Plus I think the chimps can do some okay business this weekend, maybe. But I'll be the second to say, I think X-Files can beat Ferrell and Reilly OW.

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Donte77 — GMT

Mutie:

Sounds like it would probably be terrible, yes, but at the time it was being developed as a Terry Gilliam project. Tell me that wouldn't have been the most insane movie ever. The only other thing I remember was a description of a scene where an old lady is watching a news report about the growing crisis - she looks over and sees that her dozens of cats are all staring at her - they know that she knows. I have watched that movie in my head roughly a billion times since 1996

Ummm I wanna own this movie. I am writing Terry right now to get this thing back in production. If not I will write the fucking thing. Sell me the idea!!!!

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mutard7 — GMT

Donte77 wrote:

Ummm I wanna own this movie. I am writing Terry right now to get this thing back in production. If not I will write the fucking thing. Sell me the idea!!!!

Don't think I haven't had that same thought several times over. Part of the problem is that I can't remember the name of the movie, so I have no idea what the rights situation is right now. Pretty sure it had "Mercury" in the title, but various Google searches on combinations of "Mercury," "Terry Gilliam," "chimps," etc., didn't get me anything useful. Other problem is that I'm pretty sure there's an "animals turn against the humans" movie in development right now. Again, can't remember the title. Man, I'm useless.

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silversurfer19 — GMT

I was watching Brazil the other night and it just reminded me of how great, and largely underrated Gilliam is. He developed that masterpiece on a shoestring budget and created something truly epic. I would have quite liked to have seen that movie mutard, as well as his vision of Watchmen. And Buscemi, I absolutely hated Project X, but then I have never been a fan of Broderick so that may have swayed my opinion....

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Buscemi — GMT

I've liked Project X since I first saw it at age four. I've usally liked Broderick and will be seeing Then She Found Me tomorrow night. I also can't wait for The Tale Of Despereaux, where he voices a mouse. It's from the director of Seabiscuit, you know. I felt that 28 Weeks Later needed baboons like in the original. I think that in 28 Months Later, they should make it to where 99% of the human population has died and the world is now run by infected baboons, dogs and rats and the last humans must survive against the hungry animals.

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becs — GMT

silversurfer19 wrote:

I was watching Brazil the other night and it just reminded me of how great, and largely underrated Gilliam is. He developed that masterpiece on a shoestring budget and created something truly epic. I would have quite liked to have seen that movie mutard, as well as his vision of Watchmen.

I hate that movie. To me it is a crappy, drug induced version of 1984, never should have been made in my opinion and was 2 hours of my life I want refunded.

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leestu — GMT

becs wrote:

I hate that movie. To me it is a crappy, drug induced version of 1984, never should have been made in my opinion and was 2 hours of my life I want refunded.

When I first watched Brazil I thought it was OK but nothing special, but after repeated viewings I started to admire it more. Now it is one of my favourite movies which I could watch over and over again. But I know lots of people that don't like it. It is one of those polarising movies.

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TheJman — GMT

Yeah, I loved Brazil too. It thought it was a great satirical take on bureaucracy gone wrong. The premise of having a plumber who does what a plumber is supposed to against pointless obstacles was quite amusing. Definite rewatch value. Gilliam is a great with the visionary way he realises his films. His main problem is that the production of his films often spiral out of control - over budget and time. Also, his produtions often seemed to be plagued by acts of god.

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lillylovelost — GMT

I had to watch Brazil at least 5 times in film school. I think it's okay. That and Blade Runner. It's funny how film school ruins viewing of good films. That and over hyping something, which is why I haven't seen The Godfather yet.

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Ron_Burgundy — GMT

School didn't ruin any films for me, they never showed us enough! But seriously, i had come to appreciate a movie like Shine and the performance of Geoffry Rush after watching it a few times at school. In saying that, i dont really want to watch that again for some time... 'You stay classy ROW team'

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Buscemi — GMT

But you've got to admit it's better than watching Crocodile Dundee in film school (man, that film is overrated). People sure watched crap over and over in 1986 (that and Top Gun) while GOOD films like Blue Velvet, Labyrinth and Manhunter bombed.

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Donte77 — GMT

Lily:

which is why I haven't seen The Godfather yet

:shock: HUH!?!?! :shock: SS:

I was watching Brazil the other night and it just reminded me of how great, and largely underrated Gilliam is. He developed that masterpiece on a shoestring budget and created something truly epic. I would have quite liked to have seen that movie mutard, as well as his vision of Watchmen.

Gilliam is a great film maker, no question. Some of his movies are hard to watch but you do, which makes him all the more brilliant. Try Tideland to see what I mean. Also Gilliam's vision of Watchmen would be porno. Seriously. Bumb chik a bow wow. :mrgreen: I can almost picture that fucked up movie... Jman:

great satirical take on bureaucracy gone wrong.

Exactly! Now imagine watching that from the perspective of an anarchist who hates bureaucracy (which is ALWAYS wrong) and you will realize why I love the movie. Movies in the vein of V for Vendetta, Brazil, 1984, Idiocracy, and MASH and books like Brave New World, 1984 (yes again), Clockwork Orange, Catch 22 have always been favorites of mine.

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becs — GMT

I guess I just don't get it. I love V, 1984, Idocracy... but Brazil doesn't even feel like it should be in the list. I will concur with the whole plumber storyline being brilliant, but the rest of the movie was terrible. It was so ridiculous I just couldn't even get myself into watching the film, much less enjoying it. The dream sequences alone still make me gag just thinking about them.. seriously. I rarely go into a movie with a set of expectations, but I guess the protagonist was too weak for my liking? He never seemed to "do" anything, the movie seemed like a series of circumstances he falls into, and not in an interesting, dramatic, or funny way (see Hudsucker Proxy for a proper example). I think I might have liked it if I had some 80s nostalgia I suppose, but I was born too late for that, so the extent of my 80s nostalgia is rainbow brite, strawberry shortcake and fraggle rock....

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mutard7 — GMT

lillylovelost wrote:

I had to watch Brazil at least 5 times in film school. I think it's okay. That and Blade Runner. It's funny how film school ruins viewing of good films. That and over hyping something, which is why I haven't seen The Godfather yet.

Really? Not the Godfather part, but the film school ruining movies part. I'd say maybe up to half of my all-time favorites are movies I saw for the first time in film school: The Third Man, The Manchurian Candidate, The General, Dr. Strangelove, The Conversation, probably several others I'm forgetting right now. Part of it was just the experience of being able to see a classic projected, with a crowd. If you don't have a revival house in your area, where else do you get that? And then to get a (usually) intellectual discussion afterward? I loved that crap. Maybe we just didn't beaten to death with a few movies at my school. I can't remember seeing much of anything more than once, except High Noon for some reason. I freaking love Brazil, by the way. Especially those first 10 twisted minutes. "And this is my receipt for your receipt" = horrible, horrible genius. *SPOILER ALERT* Plus the sheer cojones of giving the "hero" the equivalent of a torture lobotomy and still somehow making that a happy ending for him? Man, I love that movie...