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I spent most of AquaMarine and Brokeback on the phone in the hall in the back of the theater on the phone with my girlfriend so I never really got into either. Although I will say I actually watched the first twenty mintues of aquamarine and would've watched the rest but I was still in high school then and phone was more important. Didn't talk through every movie I previewed though. Just those two, Doogal, and akeelah and the bee. Everything else I watched. Including Flicka.
Anyways, I didn't want to watch brokeback because the only real point of the movie was two gay cowboys livin it up on a cattle drive. There was only ever one intention for that movie and that was to symbolize that there are more and more gays everyday and they are speaking out. I'm not a fan of homo movies because I'm not a huge fan of homos. Exact opposite actually. I'm not an ahole to them.(most of them.) I actually work with one and he's pretty cool. mainly because he's in the closet and keeps it a secret. Which is cool. I understand the whole I don't want to hide who I am thing. Thats great. Be yourself. Just don't flaunt it around in front of people and expect them to be tolerant. I may not be a strong religious person but there is one verse in the bible I know by heart. Leviticus 18:22. Everyone sins. But people also repent. Gays that go to church every sunday and say that are god fearing people with religious stuff all over them are just being retarted. Being gay isn't something you can repent. You die gay and its not like anythings gonna change after your dead.
Anyways. My point is I don't like people who shove their culture down my throat. I don't do it to others. dont do it to me. I have my beliefs and values just like everyone else. Keep them to yourself. The only reason most people went to see that movie was to support the cause. Tolerance of gays. The same dam reason everyone went to see the Passion. You should go watch a movie for what it is and not what it stands for. I'm not saying people don't actually enjoy the movies. Good for them. Tuan. Keep watching them if thats your cup of tea. I'm just tired of people going oh you didn't like the passion. You must be a jew or something. What? You don't like brokeback. You must really hate gays. I didn't like brokeback because it wasabout two gay cowboys. I didn't like it because I'm not a big fan of dramatic movies and definately don't want to watch a movie about two weirdos herding cows or sheep or whatever up in some hills and then get frisky in a tent. What was so great about that. I guess I'd have to watch all of it to understand it but I'd rather waste my time watching some other crappy oscar winning drama.
"Stepping off soap box."
P.S. Retarted teen movies are much better than crappy chick flik movies. Although both have some movies that are good. How to Lose a guy in ten days and Mean girls are good examples.

"I have my beliefs and values just like everyone else. Keep them to yourself". Dude, you just spent your entire paragraph telling us your values and beliefs, and not keeping them to yourself.

I'm just saying, that's all.

I agree that people shouldn't enjoy Brokeback Mountain just to support the gay cause. But when I talk to a lot of fans about the film, their appreciation wasn't an attempt to reveal their liberal mindset, I think most people found it to be a genuinely moving film. It juist happened to be different because it was between two men. Taboo is rooted in tragic drama, and homosexuality is one of the last taboos in the 1st world.

No to turn this into a moral/religious debate, but I feel some objectivity needs to be interjected here.
I do believe in God, specifically the God of the bible, and that the bible itself is his word written via man. However I wouldn't consider myself "religious" because the majority who do are hypocrites, or overly legalistic about their religion and i generally can't agree with them.

Take a step back from your personal belief - this is America, its all about the right to choose, which is also a big part of the Christian religion, the God given right to choose (and the ability to discern right from wrong). To me I believe Heterosexual relationships to be the only thing that is right, but that is my personal belief and I have no reason to ask others to agree with me, the same with Homosexuals - they are just as entitled to personal beliefs as I am.
Why is it offensive that there is a movie that features a Homosexual romance (and not even in a flagrant way), when if the same movie featured a Heterosexual romance would be acceptable.

You might as well be saying Homosexuals should rally against Cold Mountain for being offensively Heterosexual... Brokeback mountain was about equivalent.

numbersix_99 wrote:

"I have my beliefs and values just like everyone else. Keep them to yourself". Dude, you just spent your entire paragraph telling us your values and beliefs, and not keeping them to yourself.

I'm just saying, that's all.

I agree that people shouldn't enjoy Brokeback Mountain just to support the gay cause. But when I talk to a lot of fans about the film, their appreciation wasn't an attempt to reveal their liberal mindset, I think most people found it to be a genuinely moving film. It juist happened to be different because it was between two men. Taboo is rooted in tragic drama, and homosexuality is one of the last taboos in the 1st world.

ok, to make this short sweet and simple, i enjoyed brokeback for it's character development, intensity, direction, cinematography, acting et al and not specifically because i support the gay cause or anything....

Bless you Michael Bay. Armageddon is a masterpiece.

cRAzY, the depth and train of thougt in that long post impressed me. I am always impressed when someone is willing to stick their neck out and try to explain an opinion that is generally veiwed as forbidden in weel plased words without tearing at the other view.

As for the for The Notebook, I absolutely loved it. I don't normally fall for sweepingly romantic dramas, but this one grabbed me and never let me go. It is one of the chick flicks I would voluntarily watch.

Tuan, your description of Brokeback being a story about forbidden love is a great summary. It ultimately the biggest reason why I didn't have the desire to see it. I don't if the hottest actress in film is staring in a 'forbidden love' story, I have better things to see. I know many fall for that story a lot, I just happen to not be in that camp. Give me a classic boy meets girl, gets girl at the end story any day. Simple I know. But I like my simple llittle delusions of grandeur. They make me smile.

Bless you Michael Bay. Armageddon is a masterpiece.

tuan69 wrote:

jameydunne wrote:

Give me a classic boy meets girl, gets girl at the end story any day. Simple I know. But I like my simple llittle delusions of grandeur. They make me smile.

Here ya go, how's Date Movie for you?

baahhaahahahahaaaaa....hilarious stuff....but calm down guys, some people liked the movie, some just don't get their taste buds tingled by 'forbidden love' stories....personally, i usually dislike such movies, but brokeback was exceptional in every way possible....

try watching the movie (those who are dissing it) if you haven't and try to keep an open mind....if you still feel the same way, then at least you've made the effort to understand the movie and watch it and your opinions will be well-founded....if you've already seen it, well, i guess you're entitled to your opinions eh?

Call me boring if you like, but spoof and even most parody movies usually bore me. The whole Scary/Date/Epic movie series of movies never really did anything for me. If I am going to watch a comedy, I would like the comedy to at least attempt some originality (the important word in that phrase is attempt). Generally, the kind of movie I find funny are things that have a darker sharp wit and not at all romantic (a couple quick examples just of the top of my head- Thank you for Smoking, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, Snatch).

I voted for Cuba but I write in Samuel L Jackson

jameydunne wrote:

Call me boring if you like, but spoof and even most parody movies usually bore me. The whole Scary/Date/Epic movie series of movies never really did anything for me. If I am going to watch a comedy, I would like the comedy to at least attempt some originality (the important word in that phrase is attempt). Generally, the kind of movie I find funny are things that have a darker sharp wit and not at all romantic (a couple quick examples just of the top of my head- Thank you for Smoking, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, Snatch).

nicely put, but id like to see an occasional spoof off another movie within a film with its own plot.

i dont think sam jackson needs a new agent because sam jackson does what ever the hell sam jackson wants when ever sam jackson wants to. i highly doubt anybody recommended snakes on a plane or black snake moan. he pretty much just felt like doing them so he did them. not his agents fault.

I will never worry about Samuel L. Jackson. The man's body of work contains more than enough impressive action and acting performances to more than outweigh his few questionable choices. Oh, sure "Snakes on a Plane" was drivel, but he never pretended otherwise. Apart from Bruce Willis, I can't think of a single actor who inhabits more films in my video library. (And their three movies together, "Pulp Fiction", "Die Hard With a Vengeance" and "Unbreakable" are among my all-time favorites.)

His next movie is going to be a futuristic time-travel movie next February called Jumper, and it sounds cool even though (gulp) Hayden Christensen is in it.

If I ever start to doubt Samuel L.'s coolness, I just harken back to his SNL monologue from 1998, and it all goes away:

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/97/97jmono.phtml

And jameydunne, I am most impressed with your depth and train of thought. If you want into my next "Regulars" Ultimate league (Oct-Dec), let me know via e-mail. I don't think many others will object.

i think samuel l jackson has got to be the biggest bad ass in hollywood. i mean even when he does the worst movies he doesnt lose any respect. he is like your favorite nfl team. he only wins about half of the games but you still root for him anyway because its samuel l jackson

nickb1016 wrote:

i think samuel l jackson has got to be the biggest bad ass in hollywood. i mean even when he does the worst movies he doesnt lose any respect. he is like your favorite nfl team. he only wins about half of the games but you still root for him anyway because its samuel l jackson

That analogy is right. He does lose half his games. Here are some of Jackson's recent "masterpieces": 1408, Resurrecting the Champ, Black Snake Moan, Freedomland, The Man, XXX; State of the Union, S.W.A.T., XXX, I can keep going. I mean I can give the guy his due for his past work. but that does not excuse his recent history. The question was which actor needs to find anew agent, not which actor has the best past. It's been awhile since Jackson stole the show like in Negotiator. And I'd rather see Sam in Iron man then in some sci fi flick which have been altogether hit or miss since Dune.

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