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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) May 11, 2008 5:45 PM
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mooreland
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Yee-haw, go WHiV! Beating out the Speed Racer in PTA. I knew it would be worth being on my slates.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) May 12, 2008 7:47 AM
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ashkul88
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Shryke42 wrote:
5. Mister Loneley (just barely ahead of The Visitor)
well, that leaves one less headache for me....though God knows 'Visitor' gave me more than enough to last a lifetime!!
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) May 12, 2008 11:11 AM
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Donte77
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That is awesome for me except in the Bankruptcy Slate. Those people that took Speed Racer just got a big help. 42 bucks for a few top 5 and 30 million bucks. Damn it is going to do worse than Nim's Island. LOL
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) May 12, 2008 4:09 PM
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Buscemi
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Taking Speed Racer in Bankrupts was good advice!
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) May 12, 2008 10:03 PM
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undeadmonkey
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I admit it. Speed Racer was a damn good Bankrupts pick
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) May 12, 2008 10:11 PM
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Buscemi
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Now, does anyone agree with comparing it to The Golden Compass (in terms of anticipation and final result)?
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) May 12, 2008 10:42 PM
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dranscht
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Nope. We all had Speed Racer pegged as a flop a mile away. With The Golden Compass, it took until much closer to the release to think that maybe it wasn't quite so hot after all.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) May 12, 2008 11:12 PM
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Shryke42
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dranscht wrote:
Nope. We all had Speed Racer pegged as a flop a mile away. With The Golden Compass, it took until much closer to the release to think that maybe it wasn't quite so hot after all.
I'm too tired to look this up (hint, nudge), but didn't Compass fare MUCH better overseas, to the extend that it actually made most of its money back? Which, I think, qualifies it more of a "disappointment" than an actual flop. (And, for the record, I still enjoyed watching more than I Am Legend, if you can believe it.)
As for Speed, I heard that it's total budget was around $300 million including marketing. And its first week out of the gate in the international market? Was even worse than here, according to IMDb.
Another films falls victim to the second-weekend-in-May curse. I sure hope that Star Trek fares better in that slot next year! But then, it's following Wolverine, not Iron Man or Spider-Man, so maybe it can be the exception to the rule, like Troy was to Van Helsing (which also, ironically, starred Hugh Jackman).
Hmm... looks like I'm already writing my column for next May, doesn't it?
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) May 12, 2008 11:24 PM
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silversurfer19
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you are quite right Shryke, I remember it did quite well over here in NZ, and I just checked and for its budget of $180m it achieved $300m foreign BO to add to its $70m US.
It has also reached about $6.5m in DVD rentals as well, so really, although it didn't meet expectations, it has done ok for about $377m. I don't see Speed Racer performing that well. In total worldwide so far it has only just reached $30m. They are poor figures for a movie which has cost $120m(excluding marketing)!
And shryke, I think Wolverine will do very well next year, what with the popularity of the character, Marvel and Jackman (though Deception attempts to disprove his draw) so maybe you should be a little worried for Star Trek.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) May 13, 2008 7:09 AM
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Buscemi
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Jackman's native Australia is probably the only place where Deception made any money (opened Number Three there).
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) May 13, 2008 7:52 AM
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geezer9687
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I think the closest comparison we have to Speed Racer, as far as this game is concerned, would be Lions For Lambs. That was a movie that pretty much everyone knew would tank, yet still had a ridiculously high price tag.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) May 13, 2008 9:21 AM
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dranscht
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I think Deception doesn't disprove Hugh Jackman's draw; it didn't fail because of him so much as the fact that it went through multiple title changes AND was released on the last week in April, which is always pretty much a crapshoot.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) May 13, 2008 9:33 AM
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Buscemi
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And to Fox, it was already a dump considering they didn't fund it (it was independently made) and only had US and Australian rights (Summit handled international rights in which they pre-sold it). So, Fox felt it wasn't a loss leading to little advertisement or word-of-mouth.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) May 13, 2008 6:01 PM
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undeadmonkey
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I didnt see any advertisement for Deception. The only reason i knew it was coming out is because of this site and boxofficemojo
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) May 13, 2008 7:11 PM
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Buscemi
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Trailers appeared on a few films (Shutter and some prints of Shine A Light), but TV spots and Internet ads were few and far between. It was overshadowed by Street Kings and What Happens In Vegas from the same studio.
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