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cRAzY:

Wow, erm, well, sorry to disappoint, but I'm actually NOT a Steven Seagal "fan"; I mean, he was fine in Under Siege, just what a cheesy, check-your-brain-at-your-own-front-door action movie needed in its putative star, and I quite liked his rather courageous (take that any way you want to) cameo in Executive Decision. But, I mean, come on... he's STEVEN SEAGAL, not Steve McQueen, or even Bruce Willis. He's just two steps up the ladder from The Rock, one up from Jean-Claude van Damme, right beneath Jason Scott Lee and Wesley Snipes, and three or four below Kurt Russell. My tongue was very firmly in my cheek, m'boy; it's called sarcasm, or facetiousness, or just plain being a smart-ass. In other words, I was just being me.

S'alright; I'm an acquired tastelessness.

That being said, as far as your comment...

I can't take advice from [Seagal] fans

...goes, well, I can't argue with that, and wouldn't dare. I make a point not to contradict common sense whenever possible, not to mention general rules for preserving intelligent life in this quadrant of the galaxy. Carry on.

However, now we move on to:

I'm guessing your middle aged around 30 or so. Maybe older. Just guessing off different posts.

I can't tell you how hard I laughed reading this... I laughed until I cried, actually. Or, just maybe, I cried until I laughed. Either way, this was some funny f@%#in' sh!t, dude. You may just be the first person I've ever talked to, apart from my eight-year-old daughter, who considered thirty to be MIDDLE-[BLEEP]in'-AGED!!! I mean, holy crap, do I need to be worried about Sandmen and robots named Box? You SO do not want to meet my wife, dude, EVER -- she'll saw your head off with one of her four-inch heels, stuff it in our daughter's Easy-Bake Oven (R) and plant you, feet-up, in our flower bed amidst porcelain gnomes, poinsettas and a very nice shrubbery. I am so not exaggerating.

(By the way, she's six months older than me. Which means, I suppose, that she ought to be getting a Senior's discount at Luby's [TM]. I'll pass it along.)

You were in the ballpark, btw, I'm 36. (Old enough to know better; young enough not to give a damn.) Good job. Identify.

That age group seems to be the only people I know that like [Seagal].

Sounds about right. [Hanging head in abject shame and self-loathing.] But, then again, we liked Q*bert, Night Court and flannel, too. You have absolutely no idea what the Hell I'm talking about. Oh, well, whatever, nevermind.

Maybe its cause they were the ones who went to see his "good" movies in theaters.

He had good movies? (Executive Decision excepted.) News to me.

Sorry. I really don't mean to rag on you but this has a very long on going argument between me and the ole step dad, among others.

[Laughing] No apologies necessary, my friend... And, dude, you're not within the same galaxy as "ragging" on me. I give opinions. I listen to opinions. I dispute opinions. I give more opinions. But, um, and don't take this the wrong way, but... You know your "ole step dad"? I ain't him. Just to clarify.

[I]f you ask me. Will Sasso from Mad TV is a better actor than Steven [Seagal]. And he does one hell of an impersonation too.

My Garden Weasel [TM](R)(C) is a better actor than Steven Seagal. (Anyone watch South Park? "Rob Schneider is... A Carrot! Rated PG."

You find one of his movies other than Exit Wounds that I don't yawn through and I'll shut up.

No need. Keep talkin'. ...Come on, man, keep talking! Come ON!!! DON'T TEASE ME, BRO!!!

And I really don't mean to hate. I mean your a [Seagal] fan. Good for you man.

[Exasperated] I have SO got to order you a $19.95 Ronco[TM] Irony Detector(R)(C) for Christmas [TM], or Hannukah (R), or Kwanzaa (NAACP), or Boxing Day [KBE], or whatever.

...I can't take that post seriously now.

That's always good advice.

I tend to like my supporting actors. If it wasn't for the supporters the "Big Guys" wouldn't be crap.

Seriously, that's the most awesome thing you've said today. Well, since "I'm guessing your middle aged around 30 or so," anyway, which was simply... PERFECT.

...Robocop wouldn't have been "as" good without [Kurtwood Smith].

Agreed.

P.S. Maybe they should have Segal play robocop.

That is, quite simply, the very worst idea in the entire friggin' HISTORY of Bad Ideas. I mean, that's William Shatner singing "Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds"-bad, Charo guest starring on The Love Boat-bad, Van Halen dumping David Lee Roth for Van Hagar-bad... Dare I say, even Battlefield: Earth-bad? (No, that's going too far.)

cRAzY, it's been a pleasure, dude. And you may call me "Mr. Nico," if you wish -- I never get respect from you young folk! [Grin]

I remain, as always... (or until someone wraps me in tin foil, tosses me in the air and shoots a proton beam at me)

Nico. [ZZZZZORT!!!] [poof] (And there was much rejoicing.)

ETA: tuan, if by "best," you meant, "ONLY," I'm with ya, bro. (Don't TASE me, bro!!!)

Nicodemus wrote:

I mean, holy crap, do I need to be worried about Sandmen and robots named Box?

Just happened to pop this into the DVD a few weeks ago. Still holds up pretty well except for the special effects and miniature work where I can be more easily convinced by a close-up shot of a little Barbie playhouse than what's in the film, which looks like a little science experiment model. Man, a robot named Box, that's one funny robot. Thanks for reminding me of how much fun this film is.

Hmmmm... Logan's Run had a robot character named Box. 1978's Battlestar: Galactica had a character named Boxey, who was running from robots.

Coincidence? Or conspiracy? Someone call Oliver Stone!

I remain, as always...

Deeply, very deeply, disturbed. (Nico)

ETA: Parts of Logan's Run were actually filmed 'round these parts... the City exteriors in Fort Worth, interiors at the Dallas Market Center downtown. Identify.

Whoa that's very interesting.

Also, is that 70's Galactica any good. I heard it's very cheesy, but I want it to be cheesily good not cheesily bad.

Whoa that's very interesting.

Also, is that 70's Galactica any good? I heard it's very cheesy, but I want it to be cheesily good not cheesily bad.

Whoa that's very interesting.

Not so much, really. Life is full of incredibly interesting and improbable things. The thing is, half of them are b.s., and the other half mainly suck.

Also, is that 70's Galactica any good? I heard it's very cheesy, but I want it to be cheesily good not cheesily bad.

Wow, that's a complicated question. Here's an uncomplicated answer: It largely really, really sucks. The pilot and perhaps a handful of other episodes are pretty darned good, and I think worthy of picking up the DVD boxed set, but there are some great, big, cheese-filled stinking turds mixed in there, too. My advice: Watch the odd-numbered hours drunk; the odds are better you'll enjoy the overall experience.

And try not to notice the f@%#in' robot dog. (Good advice generally, in fact, unless it's K-9.)

And with that, I'm outta here until later tonight. I remain, as always...

Nico.

Nico:

My God, are you ALWAYS "on"?

UHF, Battlestar Galactica, Robocop, Total Recall, Executive Decision, and now Doctor Who references.

Despite the fact that I am two years older than Nico, I become more and more convinced each day that he and I were separated at birth... whereas he was given to his natural-born parents, well-educated and well-loved, I was spirited away in the back seat of a clown car and sold to my "adoptive" parents in some back-alley somewhere. Hmm, this would actually explain a lot... but I digress.

Re: Executive Decision; spot on. One of the coolest action/dramas of the 90's. Halle Berry was awesome.

Re: UHF; gets funnier every time I watch it, which for me is about 50 times already. "STUUUUUUUPIIIIIIIID!!!!!! You're so STUUUPIIIID!!!" (BTW, did you know that Fran Drescher turns 50 on Sunday? She's STILL a major hottie, but that voice...)

Re: Robocop being remade? I'm all for that, but I can't imagine it improving on the original in any way that would make me enjoy it more. I mean, I'm sure they could make it less cheesy, with better effects, and even a more compelling story line, like what they've done with the new Bionic Woman series (for which the jury's still out, for me)... in other words, it won't really be Robocop any more. I enjoy the hot mess that Verhoeven created, the clunky bad-ass tin can with the monotone, with the cardboard cutouts that Miguel Ferrer, Dan O'Herlihy, Ray Wise, Ronny Cox AND Kurtwood Smith played. Some things are just so bad, they're good. And others are just SO BAD, they're exceptional. And Robocop is one of those things.

Re: Footloose being remade; Meh. Some things should STAY in the 80's (you know, like Reaganomics, or those shirts that supposedly spontaneously changed colors under the right circumstances, until you, you know, washed them once... which, I never owned anything like that, no sirree bob, no way). I would hope they'd at least dedicate it to the memory of Christopher Penn.

K-9? Best g**damn robot dog EVER. Boxey wasn't fit to sniff K-9's cybernetic doggie butt. A fight between the two of them (sponsored by MVick, Inc.) would have lasted all of 2.3 nanoseconds, courtesy of K-9's nose laser.

I remain, as always,

Comfortably Numb.

Shryke42 wrote:

K-9? Best g**damn robot dog EVER. Boxey wasn't fit to sniff K-9's cybernetic doggie butt. A fight between the two of them (sponsored by MVick, Inc.) would have lasted all of 2.3 nanoseconds, courtesy of K-9's nose laser.

Haha, it sounds pretty awesome.

Nice comeback. Well put. Great words from an even smarter man. Sorry about the middle aged thing. Unfortunately my dad has been going throught the middle aged phase since he turned thirty. It's rather annoying. But I've love em anyways. But thats neither here nor there. And I wouldn't have said those awful things about you being a segal fan but I have this this disease that makes me unable to interperet typed sarcasm. Apologies. But unfortunately I rather liked most of those action stars you listed. Bruce willis is probably one of my top favorite actions stars and at least in my top ten actors ever. Wesley isn't so bad. Passenger 57 I rather liked. And the Blade series I also liked. Although I really like vampire movies. Oh well. Jean Claude is ridiculous. Kurt Russel is okay. and I really like the rock. But Diesel makes much better movies.
P.S. My mom is a huge Belushi fan and made me watch K-9. It was okay. and I didn't mean to offend the misses. Oops. Just make sure you tell her shes as young as she feels.

cRAzY: It's cool, no offense taken whatsoever -- quite the opposite, that response (and your original comments about me being, a-HEM, "middle-aged") were just about the most fun I've had online since, well, at least since I tried to figure out the puzzles, without Wikipedia's help, at ethanhaaswasright.com.

Unfortunately my dad has been going throught the middle aged phase since he turned thirty. It's rather annoying. But I've love em anyways.

[Laughing] You know, one of my best friends -- he's also an FM player, but, thankfully, not a frequenter of the Forum, so I can talk smack about him with impunity, ha ha -- is my (advanced) age, and he's had at least four mid-life crises since HE turned thirty, which is about the same age he became a dad for the first time. He "celebrates" his impending quatrogenarianism by buying a new "toy," every time: first, it was a customized, limited-edition street-racing Trans Am, then, a motorcycle, then, another sports car, and now, a supercharged pickup with rims wider than Kirstie Alley, that's just this side of a monster truck. (Also like Kirstie Alley.) He drives his wife asbolutely batsh!t, but, I have to admit, he sure is entertaining. Me, I still think I'm a few years short of MY mid-life crisis; I'm saving up for a fully loaded Jeep, or perhaps an F-350 / V8, or new kidneys or something.

I have this this disease that makes me unable to interperet typed sarcasm. Apologies.

No sweat. In future, perhaps The Powers That Be at FM can make us a nice point-and-click button, like they have for Bold and italics and underlined, for SARCASM DAMMIT!!! [Grin] Anyway, I've already ordered that Ronco [TM] Irony Detector(R)(C), but it was recalled five minutes later; it caused cancer in lab rats, or something. (Anyone ever wonder if cancer is simply endemic to lab rats, btw?) Stupid Chinese imports.

Bruce willis is probably one of my top favorite actions stars and at least in my top ten actors ever. Wesley isn't so bad... [T]he Blade series I also liked... Jean Claude is ridiculous. Kurt Russel is okay. and I really like the rock. But Diesel makes much better movies.

Amen to nearly all of the above. I also happen to think that Bruce Willis is among the most underappreciated talents of all-time; watch his craftsmanship in The Siege, or Tears of the Sun, or The Last Boy Scout, or Unbreakable, or Billy Bathgate, or Nobody's Fool, or The Jackal, or even Armageddon, not to mention Pulp Fiction and Sin City; Wesley Snipes is a fantastic actor, but I think he does more, frankly, with lesser (non-leading) roles than he achieves as a leading actor. Watch Waiting to Exhale, or The Fan, or Rising Sun, or even New Jack City; there's a VERY good actor there... perhaps, even, one not all that much removed from Don Cheadle, underneath all the hyped-up poses and kick-ass martial arts moves. He ought to stick to character roles. Jean-Claude van Damme, well, I wouldn't watch him in a cat food commercial. Unless, of course, he were the cat food. Kurt Russell is a minor deity, but, like Snipes, I think he's best in roles where he has to keep a lower profile; anyone remember how charismatic, yet chilling he was in Tequila Sunrise, for example? He almost stole the film from Mel Gibson, and, man, that takes some doing. He even made Soldier a fairly decent film, all things considered, though no one could prevent the disaster that was Escape from L.A. Gerard Butler won't hold a candle to him in the Escape from New York remake, is my bet... Vin Diesel makes some good films. The Chronicles of Riddick is one of the ten best science-fiction films of the last decade; and, of course, he was, in retrospect, the ONLY choice to voice The Iron Giant. Not to mention his work in Saving Private Ryan, A Man Apart and even the highly derivative, Wall Street-Lite Boiler Room... Good stuff, cRAzY, I like your taste. Except for the whole The Rock thing, but, you know, as the Warden said in Shawshank Redemption: "I suppose... exceptions can be made." [Grin] Notice, now, that he got all magnanimous that way only after he reminded everyone that their ass(es) belonged to him... I bet he was a lousy husband, too...

P.S. My mom is a huge Belushi fan and made me watch K-9. It was okay.

[Groan] Okay, you've been warned: SARCASM DAMMIT!!! [Grin] The 'K-9' I was referring to was a robotic dog on Doctor Who (either incarnation, though especially during the original's Tom Baker years, a.k.a., the Fifth Doctor. Holy shit, dude.

Addendum: ...And even K-9 (the glorified remote-control toaster, not the film, which was a nauseatingly insipid rip-off of Turner & Hooch anyway...) could out-act James Belushi. And I'm a big, big Belushi fan, too, only I like the Belushi with talent: John.

...I didn't mean to offend the misses. Oops. Just make sure you tell her shes as young as she feels.

De nada. Here's an actual quote from Nicomissus: "Um, okay. Which part of me will you be feeling?" And the crowd are loving it!

P.S. I'm not smart, I'm big-boned. [Grin]

I remain, as always...

Nico.

Nicodemus wrote:

Vin Diesel makes some good films. The Chronicles of Riddick is one of the ten best science-fiction films of the last decade.

Exactly how true is this?

I remember watching it and falling asleep like 30 minutes in. Am I missing out on much? I do like Vin Diesel, especially him in Pitch Black, but for some reason, Riddick bored the crap out of me, or maybe I was really tired that day.

I do love me some good sci-fi.

tuan: [Shrug] I mean, it's not 2001: A Space Odyssey, or Alien, or The Abyss, or Gattaca, or Serenity, or Sunshine or anything. But The Chronicles of Riddick had a pretty damned original (and complicated) story, some fantastic special effects and, actually, some very decent genre performances... Colm Feore's, Alexa Davalos's and Karl Urban's, in particular. It's a rare sequel that manages to build on the original, and Riddick did that, in every way imaginable -- it exploded the Riddick universe in the same way that The Empire Strikes Back added on to the Star Wars palette, the same way Aliens did; only, more so, by comparison... the world of Pitch Black was claustrophobic, truncated and small, while Riddick's was limitless... One criterion I have for my "favorite" films is, would I want to return to this world, these characters? As far as The Chronicles of Riddick goes, my answer is: Hell, YES!!! The dense, detailed mythology Diesel and writer David Twohy came up with deserves at least one bona fide sequel; it's a shame we won't get one. But, then, I'm still crossing my fingers for a Firefly BDS (Big Damn Sequel), too.

I remain, as always...

Nico.

[Groan] Okay, you've been warned: SARCASM DAMMIT!!! [Grin] The 'K-9' I was referring to was a robotic dog on Doctor Who (either incarnation, though especially during the original's Tom Baker years, a.k.a., the Fifth Doctor. Holy shit, dude.

Nico.... (sigh).... what am I going to do with you?

Forgive me for being so uncategorically anal, but when you are the offspring of Ivy Leaguers, it kind of comes naturally. Tom Baker, was, in fact, the FOURTH incarnation of the Doctor, and also the most famous, if you ask me. He was the one with the curly hair, the piercing pale blue eyes, and the nine-meter-long scarf o' many colors. He played the Doctor for seven seasons (a record), and is simply one of the greatest single characterizations ever brought to the small screen. He was so much fun to watch, to listen to, to absorb, to wrap around you like a comfy blanket, that you forgot all about the horrible effects and Hefty-bag monsters and cheesy music. I would put mid-to-late-70s Doctor Who against any sci-fi series EVER.

I LOVED Riddick, in both movies, but especially in Chronicles Of. There have been many classic good/bad/good guys in sci/fi, but few have had the coolness that Vin brought to that character. He'd have whupped Conor MacLeod in under ten minutes, Judge Dredd in under five and would have had Paul Usul Muad'Dib Atreides crying for his mommy before the bell even rung. Part of me would love to see a continuation of the series, but in my heart I know it would be better if there weren't. And please, no goddamn TV version of it. (You hear me, Sci-Fi channel? Don't even think about it. Hey! Put that word processor down!)

Tell me this about Doctor Who: why was it that every alien planet he visited looked suspiciously like south English countryside?

Admittedly, I watched the reruns of the show as a kid and I loved them- and Shryke, Baker was definitely the best, so eccentric. I liked the 7th on as well, he was goofy but it was all a front. Christopher Ecelston's Doctor just looks like he'll tear you apart. He's much better at being a crazy invisible dude.

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