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silversurfer19
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I was watching Brazil the other night and it just reminded me of how great, and largely underrated Gilliam is. He developed that masterpiece on a shoestring budget and created something truly epic. I would have quite liked to have seen that movie mutard, as well as his vision of Watchmen.

And Buscemi, I absolutely hated Project X, but then I have never been a fan of Broderick so that may have swayed my opinion....
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I've liked Project X since I first saw it at age four. I've usally liked Broderick and will be seeing Then She Found Me tomorrow night. I also can't wait for The Tale Of Despereaux, where he voices a mouse. It's from the director of Seabiscuit, you know.

I felt that 28 Weeks Later needed baboons like in the original. I think that in 28 Months Later, they should make it to where 99% of the human population has died and the world is now run by infected baboons, dogs and rats and the last humans must survive against the hungry animals.
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silversurfer19 wrote:
I was watching Brazil the other night and it just reminded me of how great, and largely underrated Gilliam is. He developed that masterpiece on a shoestring budget and created something truly epic. I would have quite liked to have seen that movie mutard, as well as his vision of Watchmen. 


I hate that movie. To me it is a crappy, drug induced version of 1984, never should have been made in my opinion and was 2 hours of my life I want refunded.
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becs wrote:
I hate that movie. To me it is a crappy, drug induced version of 1984, never should have been made in my opinion and was 2 hours of my life I want refunded.  


When I first watched Brazil I thought it was OK but nothing special, but after repeated viewings I started to admire it more. Now it is one of my favourite movies which I could watch over and over again. But I know lots of people that don't like it. It is one of those polarising movies.
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Yeah, I loved Brazil too. It thought it was a great satirical take on bureaucracy gone wrong. The premise of having a plumber who does what a plumber is supposed to against pointless obstacles was quite amusing.
Definite rewatch value.

Gilliam is a great with the visionary way he realises his films. His main problem is that the production of his films often spiral out of control - over budget and time. Also, his produtions often seemed to be plagued by acts of god.
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I had to watch Brazil at least 5 times in film school. I think it's okay. That and Blade Runner.

It's funny how film school ruins viewing of good films. That and over hyping something, which is why I haven't seen The Godfather yet.


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School didn't ruin any films for me, they never showed us enough! But seriously, i had come to appreciate a movie like Shine and the performance of Geoffry Rush after watching it a few times at school. In saying that, i dont really want to watch that again for some time...

'You stay classy ROW team'
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But you've got to admit it's better than watching Crocodile Dundee in film school (man, that film is overrated). People sure watched crap over and over in 1986 (that and Top Gun) while GOOD films like Blue Velvet, Labyrinth and Manhunter bombed.
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Lily:
which is why I haven't seen The Godfather yet 


HUH!?!?!

SS:
I was watching Brazil the other night and it just reminded me of how great, and largely underrated Gilliam is. He developed that masterpiece on a shoestring budget and created something truly epic. I would have quite liked to have seen that movie mutard, as well as his vision of Watchmen. 


Gilliam is a great film maker, no question. Some of his movies are hard to watch but you do, which makes him all the more brilliant. Try Tideland to see what I mean. Also Gilliam's vision of Watchmen would be porno. Seriously. Bumb chik a bow wow. I can almost picture that fucked up movie...


Jman:
great satirical take on bureaucracy gone wrong. 


Exactly! Now imagine watching that from the perspective of an anarchist who hates bureaucracy (which is ALWAYS wrong) and you will realize why I love the movie. Movies in the vein of V for Vendetta, Brazil, 1984, Idiocracy, and MASH and books like Brave New World, 1984 (yes again), Clockwork Orange, Catch 22 have always been favorites of mine.
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I guess I just don't get it. I love V, 1984, Idocracy... but Brazil doesn't even feel like it should be in the list. I will concur with the whole plumber storyline being brilliant, but the rest of the movie was terrible. It was so ridiculous I just couldn't even get myself into watching the film, much less enjoying it. The dream sequences alone still make me gag just thinking about them.. seriously. I rarely go into a movie with a set of expectations, but I guess the protagonist was too weak for my liking? He never seemed to "do" anything, the movie seemed like a series of circumstances he falls into, and not in an interesting, dramatic, or funny way (see Hudsucker Proxy for a proper example).
I think I might have liked it if I had some 80s nostalgia I suppose, but I was born too late for that, so the extent of my 80s nostalgia is rainbow brite, strawberry shortcake and fraggle rock....
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lillylovelost wrote:
I had to watch Brazil at least 5 times in film school. I think it's okay. That and Blade Runner.

It's funny how film school ruins viewing of good films. That and over hyping something, which is why I haven't seen The Godfather yet.
 


Really? Not the Godfather part, but the film school ruining movies part. I'd say maybe up to half of my all-time favorites are movies I saw for the first time in film school: The Third Man, The Manchurian Candidate, The General, Dr. Strangelove, The Conversation, probably several others I'm forgetting right now.

Part of it was just the experience of being able to see a classic projected, with a crowd. If you don't have a revival house in your area, where else do you get that? And then to get a (usually) intellectual discussion afterward? I loved that crap.

Maybe we just didn't beaten to death with a few movies at my school. I can't remember seeing much of anything more than once, except High Noon for some reason.

I freaking love Brazil, by the way. Especially those first 10 twisted minutes. "And this is my receipt for your receipt" = horrible, horrible genius.

*SPOILER ALERT*




Plus the sheer cojones of giving the "hero" the equivalent of a torture lobotomy and still somehow making that a happy ending for him? Man, I love that movie...
 
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