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I just don't get it, and was wondering if any of my brothers and sisters here on the boards had any ideas. Simon Pegg is pretty big after Shaun and Fuzz, Kirsten Dunst can be bankable when promoted, and Megan Fox is one of the most important under 25 stars and is on like 4 magazine covers this month. And it looks funny as shit. So, any ideas on why it won't do well and/or why it's not being marketed/promoted at all?

For some odd reason, Simon Pegg makes good movies that no one wants to promote. The same thing happened with Run, Fatboy, Run.

How was Run, Fatboy, Run anyway? I didn't give it much of a chance when finding that Schwimmer was directing...

It has the misfortune of being from MGM, who can't promote ANYTHING well except for Bond movies, and those have Sony behind them too.

Run, Fatboy, Run was good. One of the better sports films of the decade.

Meanwhile, the reason why How To Lose Friends and Alienate People isn't getting much promotion is because of the distributor. I knew that it was going to be trouble when MGM and After Dark teamed up to get the US rights (neither company has had a hit in God knows how long because of bad marketing and/or bad films). On the other hand, Paramount got the foreign rights and they'll do a fine job in the international markets.

Apparently, it's just not that good.

35% on the Tomatometer

and press screenings that are hard to come by.

Kinda sucks though. i wanted to see, if only for Fox. My theatre got Fatboy last time but this time we got Flash of Genius instead. I don't think it's going to turn out too well Box Office wise.

Despite my hate for Thandie Newton I really liked Run, Fatboy Run, but then again I adore Simon Pegg and Michael Ian Black - both brilliant comedians. They more than made up for her being annoying, I dunno if Simon will be able to balance Dunst though, it'll be rough.

JackO wrote:

Apparently, it's just not that good.

35% on the Tomatometer.

Given that the tomatometer is pretty high for Chihuahua, and higher than it should be for Fireproof (by alot), I'm not sure I really trust critics anymore...
Like it says on Shrykes site, these people must be paid to have these opinions.

JackO wrote:

Apparently, it's just not that good.

35% on the Tomatometer

and press screenings that are hard to come by.

Kinda sucks though. i wanted to see, if only for Fox. My theatre got Fatboy last time but this time we got Flash of Genius instead. I don't think it's going to turn out too well Box Office wise.

At least it beats getting An American Carol.

In fact, have you noticed how a lot of the higher-grossing theatres in the nation are not running An American Carol? For example, only one of the AMC theatres in Manhattan is running it. That theatre is in the Harlem area. That theatre is a low-grossing (for Manhattan) theatre but the grosses for An American Carol will be incredibly low due to such a film having no appeal in Harlem. So it you look it up, most theatres running An American Carol are mainly of lower-grossing big chain theatres, smaller chain theatres and independents. That along with an unappealing pro-Republican plotline, an bad marketing campaign, the film not being screened to critics and the fact that it looks like a political version of the Friedberg/Seltzer films will mean a quick death at the box office. I also can't believe that James Woods is actually in the piece of shit. I mean unlike most of the people in the film, he actually still has a career. But he just had to let politics get into the way (he's what is called a "War Democrat", a usually left-leaning person who all of a sudden gets involved with a war and jumps onto the other side until that war is over) of his talent.

Okay, back to the Simon Pegg capers.

Haha Buscemi, if you think theaters in New York not running An American Carol says anything about the movie's appeal, I don't know what to tell you. I'd expect New York theaters to run the movie just about as much as I'd expect a glowing New York Times review of it. That's enemy territory for the movie right there.

I think it's clear you don't like it or the political message, but just as Fireproof doesn't appeal to every demographic and still made money, An American Carol will have its audience as well. It's not going to be huge because it is aimed at such a limited demographic but it's not guaranteed to be a colossal flop just because it caters to the right instead of the left.

mfrendo wrote:

JackO wrote:

Apparently, it's just not that good.

35% on the Tomatometer.

Given that the tomatometer is pretty high for Chihuahua, and higher than it should be for Fireproof (by alot), I'm not sure I really trust critics anymore...
Like it says on Shrykes site, these people must be paid to have these opinions.

What?

What I was saying there, JackO (and I obviously messed up using the quote format), was that the tomatometer was in the 60's for Beverly Hills Chihuahua, and somewhat high for Fireproof, both of which prove that critics can no longer be relied upon when deciding if a movie is good or not. That's all.

If any of those positive reviews come from these critics:

Michael Medved (who thinks he's God)
Earl Dittman
Shawn Edwards
Jeffrey Lyons
Pete Hammond
Harry Knowles
Paul Fischer
Maria Salas
Jim Ferguson
Mark S. Allan
Larry King (he actually thinks has authority on film reviews)
Clay Smith
Steve Oldfield
The Film Advisory Board
96% of television film critics

then subtract from the actual total. What's left will be your actual score.

On two notes mfrendo I though run fat boy run was amazing I actually saw it 4 times within its first 2 days running. And I was a little bit pissed last night when I had to watch An American Carol instead of How to lose friends. And just so that everyone knows if you have any intention of seeing An American Carol don't waste your time. If they had done it a little bit differantly it could of been really good instead it ended up just being blah. It did have a cool little cameo from the guy from seinfelds though.

Having watched Run Fat Boy Run earlier this year, I have come the the conclusion that generally films involving Simon Pegg, but not Edgar Wright, are crap. I mean, okay, Pegg and Dylan Moran were very good together, and Hank Azaria was pretty good too, but the movie as a whole just didn't work, and it seemed like Pegg has been type cast as the new Hugh Grant to do those horrid, horrible Brit comedies which were all the rage in the 90s. Thandie Newton was downright ghastly, and the film ended up relying solely on the Pegg-Moran relationship. They were the only good scenes. I feel the same way about How To Lose Friends... I saw the trailer, and it has done absolutely nothing for me. It just looks terrible, old and very unoriginal. I love Pegg, but I don't like the films he is taking on. Get him back with Wright as soon as possible.

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