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An enjoyable movie like "Dark Knight" does some 60 million on one day and a quality picture that is just as good or better like "HellBoy2" doesn't even get respect. Who says advertising and hype not to mention a deceased actor in his last role doesn't bring in an audience. Enough to tick one off. Lets hope some of the enthusiasm for DK wears off on "Hellboy 2" and HB2 finds a decent audience in the next two weeks.

I think what you mean to say is:

How does a piece of shit like Hancock make millions more than Wall-E, one of the greatest films ever made?

Dude, did you see the weekend estimates? Hellboy 2 is GONE. Gone of the face of the planet. Get ready second-run theaters, another movie's coming your way.

And Buscemi, Wall-E's done good at the box office this year. Not great, but it did better than Ratatouille.

The Dark Knight rules all.

yeah Hellboy 2 is gone but i can see why it was somewhat of a letdown Dark Knight was better than Hellboy 2 but Dark Knight is also being overhyped and the only reason it might break the record this weekend is because of the death Of Heath Ledger and people want to see him in his last role. But another question how does the amazing Wanted get outgrossed by the most overated movie of all time Wall-E

Wanted is amazing but it has its flaws, and Wall-E is not over-rated. Also have to agree with Buscemi about Hancock, it was nothing special.

The Dark Knight deserves everything it gets. It is a spectacular film. It makes way more than Hellboy because I have been raised on Batman since I was 3 years old. I had never heard of Hellboy before the movie came out. That's the major reason. Batman is arguably the biggest superhero we have, and Heath's death just boosts that. Oh and did I mention that it is AN AMAZING MOVIE?

Now the reason for Hancock's success is not because it is spectacular. Its a fun summer movie. The reason it kicks box office ass is because of Will Smith. He is the surest thing in Hollywood. He has universal appeal. So many people will see a movie just because he is in it. WALL-E is a kids/family movie. That's why it won't outgross big Willie. Males age 14 and up don't really want to see it for the most part, unless they are taking their kids or their girlfriends. People on here are obviously the film-loving exception to the rule.

Hellboy was doomed for this weekend from the start. Just think of how much of its demographic went to see The Dark Knight this weekend or even held off during the week in anticipation of TDK. That said, it'll have a bounce back weekend next time IMO simply because those that haven't seen it and have now gotten TDK out of the way will go check it out. Getting crushed this weekend definitely kept it from sniffing $100M but I think it can still make $80M before it's all said and done.

jdls08 wrote:

An enjoyable movie like "Dark Knight" does some 60 million on one day and a quality picture that is just as good or better like "HellBoy2" doesn't even get respect. Who says advertising and hype not to mention a deceased actor in his last role doesn't bring in an audience. Enough to tick one off. Lets hope some of the enthusiasm for DK wears off on "Hellboy 2" and HB2 finds a decent audience in the next two weeks.

Just as good or better? Did you see both films? Don't get me wrong Hellboy 2 was a good movie, I liked it a lot, but The Dark Knight was a masterpiece pure and simple, one of the greatest movies ever made definitely. And the reason why it isn't getting any respect is because that film company was dumb enough to slate it the weekend before TDK, any movie that was in HB2's position last week would be suffering the same fate, its as simple as that.

Hellboy 2 was some serious eye candy and a fun ride, but it didn't have the complete package. TDK had eye candy, gadgets, explosions, drama, comedy, and a brilliant social commentary (among other things).

I have no doubt Guillermo Del Toro could make an exquisite masterpiece, but Hellboy is not it. Now that he can get the budget behind his work he could do something new, nearer to Pan's Labyrinth than Hellboy and get the attention he deserves. I have no doubt he will continue to win awards (its basically imminent with the upcoming Hobbit films), I do in fact think Pan's is a better film than TDK, and I think he will make others that surpass it as well in the future (near future I hope).

He is only going to be working on The Hobbit for the next 5 years...so maybe it will be that movie

Considering we all know the plot of the Hobbit, I highly doubt it has the depth (its pretty fluffy in comparison to LOTR). I am thinking more in the 1 year range than immediate future.

jdls08 wrote:

An enjoyable movie like "Dark Knight" does some 60 million on one day and a quality picture that is just as good or better like "HellBoy2" doesn't even get respect. Who says advertising and hype not to mention a deceased actor in his last role doesn't bring in an audience. Enough to tick one off. Lets hope some of the enthusiasm for DK wears off on "Hellboy 2" and HB2 finds a decent audience in the next two weeks.

I disagree with the idea that HELLBOY 2 is just as good as THE DARK KNIGHT. Both suffer from serious flaws with their main characters, but THE DARK KNIGHT has $185M budget (roughly $100M more than HELLBOY 2) and the first Batman was better than the first HELLBOY. I was intrigued with some of the characters and visuals of HELLBOY, but it looked like Del Toro spent a lot more time on the characters than he did the story, not unlike George Lucas in the new "Star Wars" films. DARK KNIGHT also had the benefit of a major studio and its huge marketing campaign almost a year in advance. Yes, you can say that the death of one of the main actors gave it unprecendented exposure, but if the movie or Ledger's performance or role in the film were mediocre then numbers would be down, but all have quality to them, and so it's uniquely a success. I'm not some of these people that think THE DARK KNIGHT are the bee's knees, I liked the movie, but I didn't love it. But, this film had a lot of intangibles that make it, at least numbers wise, a success more so than HELLBOY 2.

haha. looks like somebody made the mistake of picking up HB2 instead of The Dark Knight.

becs wrote:

Hellboy 2 was some serious eye candy and a fun ride, but it didn't have the complete package. TDK had eye candy, gadgets, explosions, drama, comedy, and a brilliant social commentary (among other things)

Nicely put Becs.

It's been a very loooooong looooong time since a movie like that has come out. The last I could think of is maybe Lord of the Rings.

Heat, The Departed, all great movies..... but they do not have Batman or The Joker in them, thus TDK is better.

tuan69 wrote:

becs wrote:

Hellboy 2 was some serious eye candy and a fun ride, but it didn't have the complete package. TDK had eye candy, gadgets, explosions, drama, comedy, and a brilliant social commentary (among other things)

Nicely put Becs.

It's been a very loooooong looooong time since a movie like that has come out. The last I could think of is maybe Lord of the Rings.

Heat, The Departed, all great movies..... but they do not have Batman or The Joker in them, thus TDK is better.

Tuan I have to say that I like you, in a completely non-gay strictly platonic way, you sir have very good taste. And you are right again.

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