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What did everyone think of it?

Heaths performance was beyond amazing IMO. He did it so well. Played the Joker to perfection. Had those nasty jokes, and the very deranged sense of humor.

I am surprised as to the fate of Harvey Dent. I thought for sure he would continue on as the bad guy in part three, but it looks like they will need a new bad guy in part three, what with Heaths passing.

Honestly, he deserves the Oscar, or at the very least an Oscar nom. If Captain Jack Sparrow got one (deservedly), so does the Joker.

Favorite part: when the Joker is talking to the room full of criminals, and he says "a little magic trick, i'm going to make this pencil dissapear" and the magic trick that follows. That was bloody brilliant deranged-Joker humor.

I really enjoyed the film also, and I'm not a huge fan of comic book movies. I was also not a huge fan of Batman Begins. I felt it took itself far too seriously when the villain's plot was preposterous.

The Dark Knight manages to avoid this by the Joker's plot of chaos, which is aptly insane.

I can't see why Heath wouldn't get a nomination if Javiar Bardem and Anthony Hopkins won awards for representing a similar type of person.

My favourite scene was the two boats opting not to choose. It could have been so cheesy but it was brilliantly done.

My other favourite scene was the disappearing pencil- equally hilarious and evil.

Things that surprised me:

Harvey Dent's narrative journey was brilliantly done- I was really surprised by the focus on his character.

Bye Bye Rachel- didn't see that coming

Things I didn't like:

Morgan Freeman's character- very pointless and could easily have been written out.

The Hong Kong scene- again, if it was left out the film would have lost nothing, and the film overall would have felt paced better.

Nolan's need to be explicit about every single character trait. But it is a comic book movie so subtlety is rarely considered, so I'll let him off with that.

Overall I have definitely bought into the hype, and this is the film of the year so far, though I haven't seen Wall-E.

I liked the two boats opting not to blow each other up as well. And the look on The Jokers face when nothing happened.

Although it could have been done a little better had the big-bad guy who threw the detonator off the 'bad' boat been a little more menacing. I kept thinking Robert Knepper would have stolen the seen if he was the one who played that part.

The only thing i could nitpick against was Batmans voice, which at times got annoying. They needed to tone it done just a little bit.

Also, i LOVED the backstories The Joker gave for how he got his scares. And the scene where he is dressed up as a nurse got a superb response from the audience.

BarcaRulz wrote:

I liked the two boats opting not to blow each other up as well. And the look on The Jokers face when nothing happened.

Although it could have been done a little better had the big-bad guy who threw the detonator off the 'bad' boat been a little more menacing. I kept thinking Robert Knepper would have stolen the seen if he was the one who played that part.

Whaaaa...? You don't think Deebo is menacing? He's the epitome of big dumb guy with muscles and no brains (at least usually).

The boat scene was def my favorite sequence of the entire movie, it was wonderfully written.

I don't think Two-Face is dead, I mean they only fell like 2 stories. He was such a great character, such a great arc he took. I love Loved LOVED Aaron Eckhard in this, I didn't like that they had to kill Rachel, but Two-Face needed a reason to have such hatred.

I also loved the shot of Alfred burning the letter from Rachel to Bruce. If he knew the truth, he'd probably be as evil as Two-Face was, if not more.

The only things that irked me was the whole sonar deal. Seemed like too much of a stretch too me, I also didn't like the excursion to Hong Kong - it really wasn't needed.

I heard they originally killed off The Joker but changed it once Heath died. They could've tied up his character a little better than leaving him literally hanging by a thread. But then again, they didn't go into how he got started, so I guess they wouldn't explain his demise.

The Joker shouldn't have died, as his death would have been a loss to Batman. Batman needed him alive to prove that he wouldn't cross the line.

There's no way Two-Face is coming back. If you're knocked unconscious you don't have your eyes wide open, and you don't have a funeral!

I think Rachel's death, while disturbing, was perfect for the movie- it raised the barrier for the drama. I would have liked to have seen more of Wayne's upset at it.

Barca, I agree about Batman's voice. Bale has some trouble talking low. He should get lessons from Michael Keaton.

Another thing I loved about TDK was the ending, Batman's decision to take the blame and run- again it was another thematic twist that really impressed me.

So what to do you think will happen in Batman 3 (well, Batman 7)? who will feature? the characters I can think of are:

The Penguin- I hope Nolan doesn't try this, as he was perfectly portrayed in Batman Returns.

Catwoman- there's potential for her, but again it would be tough to top Batman Returns.

Clayface- in the animated series he was a bit too much like the T1000.

The Clock King- (I think that was his name) a possibility, but he may be a bit bland

The Riddler- An obvious choice, I'd like to see how Nolan will reinvent him

Dr Freeze- Ruined by Batman and Robin. I think his "tortured genius" shtick is a little tired at this stage

Poison Ivy- Femme Fatale's are dead and gone, though there is scope to make her a bit more "real"

Any others?

Yeah.. I like that they didn't kill the Joker, because if he had been killed, he would have 'won' in a way. I love the look on The Jokers face when his plan falls flat on its ass and no boat blows the other up, you can till he was seriosly surprised and pissed at the same time.

As for possible bad guys, i don't really know the Batman universe that well. However, i would love to see Scarecrow make a more honorable return, i like the idea of a consistetly foiled enemy.

Also, i don't know about you guys, but i think Catwoman is a definite certainty to be in part 3 at this point. First of all, she is a woman. Second of all, very much a 'copycat' of Batman. Thirdly, i think when Bale asks Freeman if the suit can take dog bites and Freeman says something to the affect of "can take one from a cat" (yes i know i butchered the line) but i thought of it as foreshadowing.

numbersix_99 wrote:

There's no way Two-Face is coming back. If you're knocked unconscious you don't have your eyes wide open, and you don't have a funeral!

What? I don't remember any of that. I thought the movie ended with Batman convincing Gordon that he'll take the blame for Dent's crimes and Gordon's monologue on how Batman is the hero that Gotham needs.

I don't remember anything of Dent's funeral.

Hell, maybe I'm like Homer Simpson, and imaging my own movies, but I was almost sure that the film ended in a kind of montage of Batman running intercut with other images, such as Dent being praised by peers at his funeral. Has the Joker's madness gotten to me that much?

BanksIsDaFuture wrote:

numbersix_99 wrote:

There's no way Two-Face is coming back. If you're knocked unconscious you don't have your eyes wide open, and you don't have a funeral!

What? I don't remember any of that. I thought the movie ended with Batman convincing Gordon that he'll take the blame for Dent's crimes and Gordon's monologue on how Batman is the hero that Gotham needs.

I don't remember anything of Dent's funeral.

It happens then. Right at the end, as Gordon/Barman both have those speaches explaining how Harvey Dent was the hero Gotham NEEDED etc etc.. They have a quick shot of the funeral.

I don't think Nolan should make another one. I don't want Spiderman 3 here. His work is complete. Let someone else pick up the reigns he left behind because I highly doubt that anything, not even Philip Seymour Hoffman as the Penguin, can top this one.

I have to say a lot of shit about this one first off i really,really liked but my buddies that i saw it with at midnight thought it was the greatest movie of ALL TIME. i dont think so at all. Yes it was very,very good but not greatest of all time My friends then proceeded to tell me that i have no taste in movies and that they dont want to see anything for the rest of the year because of this. also i am getting a lot of shit from them because of me liking Wanted more. Alright my stance on this every has their own opinion they have theres i have mine that how its supossed to work but one of my friends in particular is a douchebag and if you dont like the movie as much as he did you have " no taste in movies" i was just really sick of their shit that why i wrote all this.......................

Anyways My fave part of the movie: was the pencil magic trick that was fantastic.

Worst Part: By far the first 10 min That Bank Robbery sequence was TERRIBLE it was completley and totally dumb and got more ridiciclous by the second.

Well, Tranny, it's good to see that you didn't blindly follow the hype of the fanboys. I too has problems with the film, though I didn't see any problems with the opening robbery- the kill everyone idea was good- the gun touting manager was a little OTT, as was the times bus entrance, but hey, this is comic book land.

That said, I can't honestly see Wanted being better, but oh well. You're right, it's about taste, and if you can coherently argue your point, then noone can say anything against you.

Personally, I think I still prefer Batman Returns, but I was still surprised about how good TDK is.

That wasn't 100% Harvey Dent's funeral.

I'm sure that Harvey wanted people to think he was dead, look at what happened to his face. SO Gordon and stuff pretended.

Tranny, that opening bank heist was fantastic.

I think you're off your head on this one.

You took it too seriously buddy, just enjoy it and not nitpick it. It's okay to make note of things that didn't make sense, but try not to let it ruin the joy of watching what is easily one of the best movies of the past few years.

tuan69 wrote:

That wasn't 100% Harvey Dent's funeral.

I'm sure that Harvey wanted people to think he was dead, look at what happened to his face. SO Gordon and stuff pretended.

Tranny, that opening bank heist was fantastic.

I think you're off your head on this one.

You took it too seriously buddy, just enjoy it and not nitpick it. It's okay to make note of things that didn't make sense, but try not to let it ruin the joy of watching what is easily one of the best movies of the past few years.

I might of tuan but just all the killing and the bus was odd and just dumb normally i can deal with unbeliveable things [i mean come on by fave movie of the year is Wanted!] The Dark Knight was great and there wasnt much wrong with it at all but my friends i think might have made the experience less enjoyable i think i might watch it again on Sunday to see if i am right.

I prefer "Batman Begins" to this one. Scenes with Ledger make the film, but unfortunately for Bale, he has no scenes that even compare to Ledger's. This was Ledger's film, and considering this a Batman film, I had a problem with that. Maybe if I knew there was a possibility that Joker was going to reappear, but obviously that can't happen.

The bank robbery scene was underwhelming for the intro to Joker. I liked how they arrived on the rooftop, but there was nothing spectacular or particularly menacing about Joker from his first scene. I was expecting something like "Heat" and I got "Set It Off". Yeah, agreed, William Fichtner as the shotgun manager was odd.

I think what people are thinking off was a press conference for Harvey Dent intercut with chasing down Batman. You see no body or casket, but you see Gordon in front of a podium and a large pic of Dent behind him. I didn't get the impression that it was a funeral so much as a press conference.

Best part: I really enjoyed the "face-off" in front of the Sears Tower when Batman wrangles the 18-wheeler and turns it on end. I wished it was a little bit longer, but the pacing in that scene is well-done.

All-in-all, I think the film is a bit too frenetic for me. There's very little touched upon about Batman - until the very end. I'm looking forward to another film, but this is in no ways perfect. Watch again and let the imperfections present themselves.

My grade: B

Favorite of the year thusfar: "In Bruges"

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